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Tatoosh65

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The word over at SkyWest right now is that a deal to fly 19 CRJ 700's for "feed" to Alaska Airlines in in the final stages. "as apparently stated so by SkyWest CEO Chip Childs."
Not sure if the Alaska contract can currently block this or not, but I do know that scope relief is something that management has been going after in negotiations.
 
Didn't Alaska just dump Horizon's 70 seaters?

Doesn't Alaska feed NWA's SEA operation?

Yet another large NWA / DAL codeshare partner subbing codeshare out to RJ's?

I think there might be a problem in scope language if this rumor has any validity. 255 large RJ's? Maybe not if they are codeshare under another brand ....
 
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Alaska Air Group is dumping Horizon CRJ-70's, furloughing Pilots. They say CRJ's are not efficient enough.......but it seems more efficient if someone else owns them, maintains them, and flies them for cheaper....
Alaska Pilots also have a looming furlough of 190 positions.
Now thats Alaska Spirit!
 
Looks like I should have stayed at SKYW. I would have finally gotten a SEA or PDX base with a lot better seniority and I wouldn't be threatened by a furlough.

Hindsight I guess...
 
That is like the rumor I heard while at SKW about 9 -10 years ago. Of course it came directly from one of the VP's sons, who was/is a SKW pilot.
Around this time SKW was looking at both the EMB jets and the Dornier jets and the rumor was that we had ordered the EMB jets and are in the final stages of selecting the interior patterns.
I'm pretty sure SKW still has 0 EMB jets.
 
Last I heard from some friends still at QX is that there has been a change of heart; RJ's to stay indefinitely. Will still furlough, but not nearly the numbers previously stated.

If AK does sign a deal with Skywest, could be fun next time there are a few foggy days in SEA and PDX. QX Q400's flying in and out all day, and all the Skywest RJ's sitting on the ground in YKM.
 
Skywest flights are already on the flight schedules in Alaskaair.com. The guessing is over.
 
Of course there are days when even Cat II won't do the trick. Still - will be a sad day when Alaska contracts with someone other than QX for RJ flying.
 
qxdash8 said:
Could you give an example? Might take a while to dig it up on the web site.
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Weird. I made reservations several weeks ago to fly from knsa to kgeg the day after Christmas and they had Skywest listed on several connecton flights. I just went back to check for you and they are not there now. Hmmm?
 
SkyWest may not be cheap enough for AAG.
I can see Angle Lake signing a deal with Mesa.

Menzies rampers + Mesa operations + Horizon & Alaska furloughs = AAG profit!
 
Capt. like your screen name! Spent many a dollar at the SEA Qdoba in my QX days - now if they would open one in JFK
 
Baze said:
Looks like I should have stayed at SKYW. I would have finally gotten a SEA or PDX base with a lot better seniority and I wouldn't be threatened by a furlough.

Hindsight I guess...
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It's always 20/20. Could be worse, I left for AWA and now I've left flying.
 
Deadalus said:
It's always 20/20. Could be worse, I left for AWA and now I've left flying.
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Sounds familar, left Horizon for AWA. If I'd have known it would become US @ssways I wouldn't have left. No, that's a lie, I would have left, the Air Group sucks donkey balls.
 
lowtimedriver said:
Skywest flights are already on the flight schedules in Alaskaair.com. The guessing is over.
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Actually the guessing continues. Skywest flights have been in the schedlues for quite a while. Pull up SEA-SLC for example. Oh look! Skywest flights. They are on there as part of the Delta code-share agreement.

Old news. Move on.
 
I was being sarcastic anyways.

I heard SkyWest/AAG rumors almost from the first day I stepped onto the property at SKYW.

The best one was that Jerry Atkin wanted to buy Horizon, but he had been told by AAG that he'd have to buy the whole air group! :) Quite comical. It's amazing what rumors pilots start when they are bored.

I am not looking back. I made decisions about my career and rolled the dice. All I can do is to make the best of it and move forward.

Now, if I could find a way to leave the airline business.

Deadalus said:
It's always 20/20. Could be worse, I left for AWA and now I've left flying.
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Tatoosh65 said:
The word over at SkyWest right now is that a deal to fly 19 CRJ 700's for "feed" to Alaska Airlines in in the final stages. "as apparently stated so by SkyWest CEO Chip Childs."
Not sure if the Alaska contract can currently block this or not, but I do know that scope relief is something that management has been going after in negotiations.
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Asked one of the VP's of planning and paper clips that very question and this was his response verbatim:
"A 3rd party carrier has not been engaged to fly SEA, PDX ,LAX or any other AAG
routes under a fee-for-departure agreement for this winter or any future period
at this time other than the existing agreements we have in place with Pen Air
in the state of Alaska for Dutch Harbor and Horizon CPA. We are currently
focused on capacity reductions in FY09 -- which could include a fleet reduction
-- to mitigate the cost of fuel, unwinding of our hedges and a weak economy."

Andrew Harrison
MD Planning
 
All I heard was...."We don't really know what we are going to do. Fuel is high...blah, blah, blah"

Although fuel is now at early February levels. Oh well, back to panicing.
 
According to GS:
- Price of oil going up is bad &
- Price of oil going down is bad.

Everything is doom & gloom.

Interesting that we still have an MD Planning management position. I'm sure he's going to collect a paycheck until all our MD leases are up.

QCappy said:
All I heard was...."We don't really know what we are going to do. Fuel is high...blah, blah, blah"

Although fuel is now at early February levels. Oh well, back to panicing.
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Baze said:
Interesting that we still have an MD Planning management position. I'm sure he's going to collect a paycheck until all our MD leases are up.
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At first I thought that's what it meant, too. But I think it means Managing Director.:confused:
 
Oh, okay... thanks QCappy. :) My bad...

Still, there are a lot of office & cubicle dwellers collecting paychecks for nothing.

Alaska is has 33% more staffing per airplane than WN and WN has their own rampers.
 
Just like the genius over there at corporate who decided to hedge fuel back in the spring, at over $120.00 a barrel!! Pure genius!!!!

I think they are making so much money over there, they needed a new way to post a loss!!!
 

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