Skywest TA??? Pay??

[surplus1]

Surplus please shorten the replies, I have way to short of an attention span for your post.

Skyward, please lengthen your attention span. This flight is a transcon and lasts more than 30 minutes. Thanks.

 

[Skull-One]

I'm with Skyward. You're making me crosseyed.....

Brevity is the soul of wit...

 

[General Lee]

Maddog805,

Here's another one of your great quotes:

"I agree that this TA blows but if you think your idle threats will change anything you are sadly mistaken. Get off your high horse, you don't scare anybody."

Ok, come again? I am not trying to scare anybody. I support you guys, and I don't want you to get a bad TA. Give me a break.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[kennedy8]

surplus 1

You are right on the money.

Something wild to consider though.
Jetblue is having a press release before market opens and I have some ideas of my own.

I think that ASA and SKYW are mature enough to think going on their own. Things are very slow in Seattle and I bet BA would love to crank up 737 production line.

I personnally put the blame on UAL. I think that they alone are taking this whole industry down.

Tomorrow might mark a historic day in this industry.

Fate is the hunter.

 

[surplus1]

I may be long winded but it looks like my rationale has proven to be correct, at least in this case. Congratulations on your new deal with United.

Now, isn't it interesting that within hours of the closing of your vote, which you were told was the key to getting a deal with UAL, SkyWest has gone public with it's new deal. Do you suppose they counted your votes, began and finshed negotiations with UAL, all between midnight last night and 0700 this moring? I don't think so.

Folks the SKYW/UAL deal was a done deal long before you voted and, just as I said, was obviously NOT dependent on your concessions. You have been suckered into making unnecessary concessions to get a deal that your Company already had, but simply did not announce until after the voting.

What you've done to yourselves is bad enough, but what you've done to the rest of us really sucks.

Thanks.

 

[Skull-One]

Surplus, finally a post that is brief *and* witty. I couldn't have said it better. SKYWEST pilots just got duped and the rest of us won't be far behind on the screwing.

 

[rjcap]

Somebody posted the grid of all the regional pay rates. Why aren't ASA and Comair 70 seat pay rates up there so you can see how foolish the skywest TA is ????

Whoever posted the grid please add the 70 seat rates.

 

[surplus1]

Book Rate Comparison

Book Rates for CL65-700 (70-seats jet)

*ARW & SKW Rates Based on new agreements.
**HZN Rate eff 9/13/03 CMR Rate eff 6/22/03
*** ASA in Negotiations Rates as of 9/14/02

Note1 - Ranked from Highest to Lowest where possible

Note2 - Key

HZN = Horizon
CMR = Comair
ASA = Atlantic Southeast
ARW = Air Wisconsin
SKW = SkyWest

Captains

HZN Yr. 5 - $72.43 ..... Yr. 12 - $91.26 ..... Yr. 18 - $109.26
CMR Yr. 5 - $72.06 ..... Yr. 12 - $90.80 ..... Yr. 18 - $108.71
ASA Yr. 5 - $68.01 .... Yr. 12 - $85.69 ..... Yr. 18 - $102.59
ARW Yr. 5 - $63.62 ..... Yr. 12 - $78.72 ..... Yr. 18 - $94.26
SKW Yr. 5 - $65.25 ..... Yr. 12 - $78.33 ..... Yr. 18 - $92.87

First Officers

CMR Yr. 2 - $39.46 ..... Yr. 5 ..... $43.24 ..... Yr. 8 - $47.38
HZN Yr. 2 - $38.06 ..... Yr. 5 ..... $41.42 ..... Yr. 8 - $44.77
ASA Yr. 2 - $37.24 .... Yr. 5 .... $40.80 ..... Yr. 8 - $44.70
SKW Yr. 2 - $34.54 ..... Yr. 5 ..... $39.02 ..... Yr. 8 - $40.23
ARW Yr. 2 - $32.56 ..... Yr. 5 ..... $35.67 ..... Yr. 8 - $39.08

Note: CL65 is common type rating for all versions. Comair pilots (per contract) do not switch between models.

Book rates for CL65 (50-seats - jet)

Captains

HZN - Does not operate this equipment
CMR - Yr. 5 - $65.51 .. Yr. 12 - $81.07 ... Yr. 18 - $97.06
SKW - Yr. 5 - $63.20 .. Yr. 12 - $78.33 .. Yr. 18 - $92.87
ASA - YR.5 - $63.45 .. Yr. 12 - $75.01 ..... N/A 15 yr. cap
ARW - Yr. 5 - $61.29 .. Yr. 12 - $73.57 .. Yr. 18 - $88.10

First Officers

CMR - Yr. 2 - $35.75 .. Yr. 5 .. $40.39 .. Yr. 8 - $42.92
SKW - Yr. 2 - $34.54 .. Yr. 5 .. $39.02 .. Yr. 8 - $40.23
ASA - Yr. 2 - $33.82 .. Yr. 5 .. $36.95 .. N/A 7 yr. cap
ARW - Yr. 2 - $32.56 .. Yr. 5 .. $36.77 .. Yr. 8 - $39.09


Note 1: SKW rates for 50 - 99 seat jet are all the same.

Note 2: ARW Operates the BAE 146 with 100 seats and has lowered those rates to the following

They are compared with HZN and CMR 70-seat rates for illustration only.

Book rates for BAE146 vs CL65-700

BAE146 Captains

ARW - Yr. 5 - $69.81 .. Yr. 12 - $86.40 .. Yr. 18 - $103.44

HZN Yr. 5 - $72.43 .. Yr. 12 - $91.26 .. Yr. 18 - $109.26
CMR Yr. 5 - $72.06 .. Yr. 12 - $90.80 .. Yr. 18 - $108.71

BAE146 First Officers

ARW - Yr. 2 - $38.23 .. Yr. 5 - $41.89 .. Yr. 8 - $45.89

CMR Yr. 2 - $39.46 .. Yr. 5 .. $43.24 .. Yr. 8 - $47.38
HZN Yr. 2 - $38.06 .. Yr. 5 .. $41.42 .. Yr. 8 - $44.77

PS. I didn't post the first one.

Edited for fomatting (and still bad)