SkyWest showing videos of crippled folks and.......

[kj6991]

Inthegoo,

I still have not received your contact information so I can email your original post over to KB or CC on your feelings of the class...

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Professionalism?

how about ASAP?

How about a CBA?

How about an SBA?

How about codified work rules so when you tell your wife and kids you'll be home at a certain time and some snot nosed sycophant management boy tries to extend you, you can tell him to pound sand....


I am willing to bet that my Code of Ethics, despite Timmy joking it up, is much better than a oath pledge that I am coerced into reciting....

 

[Erlanger]

disregard

 

[s.o.sJTB]

Inthegoo,

I still have not received your contact information so I can email your original post over to KB or CC on your feelings of the class...

You must be the same guy who reports posts on our "private" forums to management!

 

[Jar Jar]

you guys really take a pledge? haha.. wtf is wrong with you people? You know Hitler also coerced a bunch of lemmings to see things his way too. Wake up folks. Snap out of it. You're being ass raped and pledging to smile about it?? ENJOY!

 

[homerjdispatch]

Come on J.I..... You are a joke! Get over it and ACT like a PROFESSIONAL!

 

[BWatz]

Inthegoo,

I still have not received your contact information so I can email your original post over to KB or CC on your feelings of the class...

Wow. You have got to be kidding me. How old are you again?

 

[AEROSQUADRON69]

ATTITUDE REFLECTS LEADERSHIP vs INTEGRITY!

For you sh*t bags out there that want to act and do your job half ASS because things are not the way you want YOU would like. You are wrong! You may feel you are not treated as a professional, but have some damn INTEGRITY! (They mention this in the class)
INTEGRITY= Doing the RIGHT thing, when no one else is looking.

Now, from the other side of the fence. I know it is hard while management is trying to preach this stuff all while messing with our....

1) Health Care plans
2) ESPP
3) 401 K
4) How are bonus is paid
5) Paying for flight benefits
6) Changing our policy manual or flat out NOT GOING BY POLICY.
7) ETC....

Its not like the company is bleeding money! Not even close!

But do the right thing, if you seriously feel you are burnt out. Try something different. See if the grass is greener. However many say you will never be happy unless your name is on the outside of a building...and even then.

 

[CX880]

Interestingly at the beginning of the class they offered the opportunity to leave after the introduction if you felt it would be a waste of your time. Think any big talking pilot in there had the balls to walk out? Nope. By the end of the day though it did seem to get long winded and the whole standing up and reciting the creed thing was a little much imho....

WOW...... Can anybody say Soviet Propaganda Panels? Where you're always welcomed to speak your mind....

That's seriously wrong guys, did you get patted on the head by the instructors as you guys walked out? That's a dead giveaway.

 

[AEROSQUADRON69]

Yeah, it seriously one sided! They try to call you Captain (last name) so Captain this, or Captain that. Like shut the F up. One chap called me by the first name. I quickly corrected him with highest level of sarcasm.
One joker running the class brought in his Army awards to pass around. Except, in my experience the military will reward your leaderships skills.

 

[sstearns2]

I have to admit that I rolled my eyes a bit when I heard about the professionalism class, but I went into it with an open mind. The class was well thought out, presented well, and worth our time. They said the course was based on USAF leadership training. The articles at the end of the booklet they handed out are well worth reading as well. I would say that the course was about personal discipline as much as leadership.

While it's difficult to discern a person’s true attitude just by reading one or two posts, my first thought after reading some of these responses is that the course is aimed squarely at you. I want to work at an airline where professionalism and personal discipline are taken seriously. Don't we all?

Cheers,
Scott

 

[WayBack]

Professionalism?

how about ASAP?

How about a CBA?

How about an SBA?

How about codified work rules so when you tell your wife and kids you'll be home at a certain time and some snot nosed sycophant management boy tries to extend you, you can tell him to pound sand....


I am willing to bet that my Code of Ethics, despite Timmy joking it up, is much better than a oath pledge that I am coerced into reciting....

Joking it up? That's how you refer to it?! ALPA showed it's true colors in that article, especially when the NJANG contacted ALPA, but was told to go pound sand. You and your little tree house club called ALPA is the joke.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Seriously, who needs a class on the fundamentals of being a member of society? If you don't have integrity, honor, or character to speak of by the time you sit this class, it's too late. Your parents failed many moons ago. WTF. Sounds like- dare I say it- some kind of religious cult indoctrination. Reciting a creed? The Hippocratic Oath? You're not doctors or lawyers. You're blue collar workers with no union. Morons possibly.

 

[EBE]

"there is more to life than money" and showing them videos of crippled folks who are happy with their lives and telling them "these folks have no legs and they are happy, you all have legs, you should be jumping for joy!"

I have a difficult time believing they would do something like that. I think the class could be beneficial and would keep an open mind. If they did show videos like the aforementioned then I would be prepared to walk out of the class. That kind of thing would be offensive and despicable for personal as well as obvious reasons.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Joking it up? That's how you refer to it?! ALPA showed it's true colors in that article, especially when the NJANG contacted ALPA, but was told to go pound sand. You and your little tree house club called ALPA is the joke.

Don't hold back..... tell us how you really feel....

 

[EBE]

Inthegoo,

I still have not received your contact information so I can email your original post over to KB or CC on your feelings of the class...

What in the he!! is wrong with you?

 

[inthegoo]

50............30............retard retard retard!!!!!

 

[trip]

It's been called Captains class or some variant at major airlines, nothing new. I understand why the Co. is doing it (just take a look at the recent industry accidents and the CVR transcripts) but I think trying to instill disciplne and integrity in a bunch of high school punks in one afternoon is futile, it takes the Marines 13 weeks.

 

[Kalifornia]

I want to work at an airline where professionalism and personal discipline are taken seriously. Don't we all?

Cheers,
Scott

For sure, but that's half the equation. When a company such as Skywest runs a program like this in place of addressing the lackluster pilot working conditions, it comes across as mostly hollow. Just the fact that they ran this on your day off and then suggest after showing up that you're free to leave sends a complete mixed message that they find your time expendable, but hope you'll fall in line with this day of training and forget about all the degrading professional work conditions.

 

[doh]

Generally I'm against these type of classes. Not because they aren't useful, but because they aren't uniformly applied. Tomorrow you will get the same call from scheduling for an illegal assignment that you got yesterday. You'll explain why it puts you over your duty limits and they will have a CP call you and tell you to fly it anyway because the company believes it is legal. Then they will self disclose to the feds and throw you under the bus. You must be professional, but for them it is optional. That is what really makes the class a waste of time.