SkyWest showing videos of crippled folks and.......

[Rez O. Lewshun]

From Transport Canada:


The conduct, aims or qualities that characterize or mark a profession or a professional person

One of the best definitions of a professional is given by the U.S. Congress in the Labor Management Relations Act, amended 1947. According to this Act, a "professional employee" is one who is:

• engaged in predominantly intellectual work, and is varied, as opposed to routine mental, mechanical, physical work
• involved in the exercise of discretion and judgment in his or her work
• the output produced or the result accomplished cannot be standardized in relation to a given period of time
• requiring knowledge of an advanced type in a field of science or learning customarily acquired by a prolonged course of specialized intellectual instruction and study in an institution of higher learning, as distinguished from a general academic education or from an apprenticeship

In addition to these criteria, other requirements are frequently added

• professional registration requirements (tests, experience)
• activity in a professional society and other professional activities
• public service nature of the occupation
• adherence to a professional code of conduct and ethics

The FAA notes the following in the Aviation Instructor's Handbook
Professionalism...is achieved only after extended training and preparation...is based on study and research...requires the ability to reason logically, accurately, and make good judgmental decisions...cannot limit their decisions to standard patterns and practice...
Finally, a profession is not seen as a stepping-stone to another career, but rather the pinnacle of many years of disciplined study, research and examinations. Professionals are normally expected to rise within the ranks of their peers.
Law and Ethics

Non-compliance with regulations can subject you to enforcement action. Pilots are responsible to see that all regulations are upheld in flight operations.
A violation of ethics does not bring about punitive action from the government, but rather a formal or informal reproof from others in the profession. Sometimes the informal reproof can be more detrimental to one's career. A reputation earned as a compulsive "risk taker" can come back to haunt that person. The aviation community is small and reputations stick.
Being a professional can be summed up as being completely dedicated to your field and devoting as much time, energy, and care into your endeavor as possible. Fulfilling a checklist of the items above does not automatically make anyone a professional, and the inability to complete one or two of them does not automatically disqualify someone as a professional.
Most importantly, professionalism is found in an attitude.

 

[CX880]

Were you able to keep a straight face?

Yea I was giving them the standard, "someone that does the right thing even when nobody's watching" thing...... I guess they wanted a more practical example.

 

[CFIT]

From Transport Canada:


The conduct, aims or qualities that characterize or mark a profession or a professional person


One of the best definitions of a professional is given by the U.S. Congress in the Labor Management Relations Act, amended 1947. According to this Act, a "professional employee" is one who is:

• engaged in predominantly intellectual work, and is varied, as opposed to routine mental, mechanical, physical work
• involved in the exercise of discretion and judgment in his or her work
• the output produced or the result accomplished cannot be standardized in relation to a given period of time
• requiring knowledge of an advanced type in a field of science or learning customarily acquired by a prolonged course of specialized intellectual instruction and study in an institution of higher learning, as distinguished from a general academic education or from an apprenticeship

In addition to these criteria, other requirements are frequently added

• professional registration requirements (tests, experience)
• activity in a professional society and other professional activities
• public service nature of the occupation
• adherence to a professional code of conduct and ethics

The FAA notes the following in the Aviation Instructor's Handbook
Professionalism...is achieved only after extended training and preparation...is based on study and research...requires the ability to reason logically, accurately, and make good judgmental decisions...cannot limit their decisions to standard patterns and practice...
Finally, a profession is not seen as a stepping-stone to another career, but rather the pinnacle of many years of disciplined study, research and examinations. Professionals are normally expected to rise within the ranks of their peers.
Law and Ethics

Non-compliance with regulations can subject you to enforcement action. Pilots are responsible to see that all regulations are upheld in flight operations.
A violation of ethics does not bring about punitive action from the government, but rather a formal or informal reproof from others in the profession. Sometimes the informal reproof can be more detrimental to one's career. A reputation earned as a compulsive "risk taker" can come back to haunt that person. The aviation community is small and reputations stick.
Being a professional can be summed up as being completely dedicated to your field and devoting as much time, energy, and care into your endeavor as possible. Fulfilling a checklist of the items above does not automatically make anyone a professional, and the inability to complete one or two of them does not automatically disqualify someone as a professional.
Most importantly, professionalism is found in an attitude.

None of which you posted proclaimed that you had to be a member of ALPA.

A Jet Blue pilot can be a professional, as well as Virgin America, SkyWest, Southwest, American. All of them.

It's the pilot, not wether they are union, ALPA or not. It's what is inside the person.

If you have to have a code of ethics to define if can abide by them, then you probably can't.

Rez, put this to bed, you are making your union look dismal, and killing any aspirations for expansion. We all know of your extremist, myopic stance, but it is only pushing people away.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

None of which you posted proclaimed that you had to be a member of ALPA.

Some of which you cannot if you aren't a member of a professional organization. Hint Skywest, JB and VA are not. THese companies have an allegiance to their stockholders and investors. That is it. Not you. Not the passengers and not the public. How are 2900 OO pilots going to 'be professional' against the monolithic demands of Jerry and DAL/UAL management?

Recall only a professional organization allows you to exercise your first amendment rights as an employed citizen.

A Jet Blue pilot can be a professional, as well as Virgin America, SkyWest, Southwest, American. All of them.

Really? How? I've been asking you to define it for days now. SWAPA and the APA have no Air Line pilot profession boiler plate. A definitive document that says this is who we say we are.

Who are the Skywest pilots? Who defines you? Management does. Roger Cohen of the RAA. They own you.

It's the pilot, not wether they are union, ALPA or not. It's what is inside the person.

It is whether. What is inside? Awww how cute. You sound like an ugly chick trying to get a date. So who determines if you've got the right "inside" stuff? Skywest Team Interview? Skywest Check airman? The honor pledge/creed? Again.. you say it is what is inside, another OO pilots says something different. Who is right? Are 2900 OO pilots who all think differently the same?

2900 OO pilots need come to together and define their own professionalism. It has yet to be done!

If you have to have a code of ethics to define if can abide by them, then you probably can't.

... the Code is a collective definition.

Rez, put this to bed, you are making your union look dismal, and killing any aspirations for expansion. We all know of your extremist, myopic stance, but it is only pushing people away.

If/when you want to expand the Student Council into a professional group call the IBT. They'll take your money.

What defines a Skywest pilot as a professional? Simple question....


Here is more help, from the FAA

Although the word “professionalism” is widely used,
it is rarely defined. In fact, no single definition can
encompass all of the qualifications and considerations
that must be present before true professionalism
can exist.
Though not all inclusive, the following list gives
some major considerations and qualifications that
should be included in the definition of professionalism.​

• Professionalism exists only when a service is
performed for someone, or for the common
good.​

• Professionalism is achieved only after extended
training and preparation.

True performance as a professional is based
on study and research.
• Professionals must be able to reason logically
and accurately.
• Professionalism requires the ability to make
good judgmental decisions. Professionals cannot
limit their actions and decisions to standard
patterns and practices.
• Professionalism demands a code of ethics.
Professionals must be true to themselves and
to those they service. Anything less than a sincere
performance is quickly detected, and​

immediately destroys their effectiveness.
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[AirCobra]

Some of which you cannot if you aren't a member of a professional organization. Hint Skywest, JB and VA are not. THese companies have an allegiance to their stockholders and investors. That is it. Not you. Not the passengers and not the public.

Doesn't having stockholders mean a company is PUBLICALLY held. And if you have a company provided 401k doesn mean yo have stock in the company making you an investor?

Why also do you think you have to be in a union to exercise your First Amendment Rights?

 

[homerjdispatch]

What defines a Skywest pilot as a professional? Simple question....


Here is more help, from the FAA

Although the word “professionalism” is widely used,
​

​

it is rarely defined. In fact, no single definition can

encompass all of the qualifications and considerations
that must be present before true professionalism
can exist.
Though not all inclusive, the following list gives
some major considerations and qualifications that​

should be included in the definition of professionalism.

• Professionalism exists only when a service is​

​

performed for someone, or for the common

good.​

• Professionalism is achieved only after extended
training and preparation.

True performance as a professional is based
on study and research.
• Professionals must be able to reason logically
and accurately.
• Professionalism requires the ability to make
good judgmental decisions. Professionals cannot
limit their actions and decisions to standard
patterns and practices.
• Professionalism demands a code of ethics.
Professionals must be true to themselves and
to those they service. Anything less than a sincere
performance is quickly detected, and​

immediately destroys their effectiveness.

​

Hmmm... Still dont see union membership in there, but this line; Professionals must be able to reason logically

and accurately really says something.... maye you need to read it closer!

 

[rtmcfi]

Rez- you are not helping.......

 

[SkyNation]

Are you really that ********************ing stupid??

yes. yes he is.

Rez- you are not helping.......

Indeed. All the free sandwiches in the world won't win hearts and minds over when this is the oft repeated rhetoric.

 

[Hootie9750]

Obviously being in ALPA and wearing a hat.

Also having a mustache to compliment the hat is a requirement.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Hmmm... Still dont see union membership in there, but this line; Professionals must be able to reason logically

and accurately really says something.... maye you need to read it closer!

How can you reason logically when management is pilot pushing? How do you counter pilot pushing?