SkyWest posts gains in key areas

[Halo_RJdriver]

SkyWest Inc., the parent company of St. George-based SkyWest Airlines, on Tuesday said two key measures of its vitality more than doubled in December, three months after acquiring Atlantic Southeast Airlines.
The company said available seat miles increased 115.7 percent, while passenger miles increased 127.5 percent from the same month a year ago.
Available seat miles are the benchmark of an airline's capacity. They are the total of all seats available on every route multiplied by the length of the route.
Revenue passenger miles show the number of seat-miles for which the airline is filling a seat and making money.
To turn a profit, ASMs and RPMs must be as close as possible. SkyWest generated 1.5 billion ASMs and 1.2 billion RPMs in December.
Load factor - the percentage of available seats that are sold - was up 3.9 percentage points, to 76.8 percent from a year ago.
Passenger boardings for December totaled 2.4 million, up from 1.2 million in December 2004.
- Paul Bee

 

[General Lee]

I bet Ronny Reber feels "insulated" from everything out there......especially high fuel prices, since Delta pays for the difference. What a joke. I just don't think SkyWest would be as profitable if they actually had to pay the difference. But, they did take ASA off of our hands, and created their own "Vietnam War" in the process. Enjoy that.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

nice cut and paste

I bet Ronny Reber feels "insulated" from everything out there......especially high fuel prices, since Delta pays for the difference. What a joke. I just don't think SkyWest would be as profitable if they actually had to pay the difference. But, they did take ASA off of our hands, and created their own "Vietnam War" in the process. Enjoy that.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Looks like ASA is Still making money unlike you. They seemed to have left all their agent orange with you and your cohorts. Enjoy that. What a joke that your box is sore over RR's comments. He already owes SkyW pilots an ACE so don't think I am siding with him on any avenue.

 

[D'Angelo]

With the current fee for departure set up there is no way for any regional to lose money period. Unfortunately we are all expendable. Just look at whats happening in Cinncinati and Eagan. Its like an RJ shell game out there. It is extremely important to keep costs in check to make sure you keep what you have. Id rather still have a job then go down screaming at least I made a stand. Sure you may make a stand but you will get stomped all over by everyone else and no one will ever remember what you did for them.

 

[enuffalready]

thanks DAL!!!

But, they did take ASA off of our hands, and created their own "Vietnam War" in the process. Enjoy that.


Bye Bye--General Lee[/quote]

I know.. thanks for the almighty for Delta. Without them, nothing would be possible. I am serious when I say that. I realize we live and die by DAL. Inc. I am greatful for my job, I do enjoy flying and realize my job is possible because of DAL. I am also grateful for the pilots at Delta for negotiating away the rights to the RJ. Believe it or not, contrary to everything GL esposes, I have NO DESIRE to go anywhere else. I have great income outside ASA, and have no desire to give up my QOL here at ASA. That being said, I will fight tooth and nail to get any 705, 90 seater, whatever here at ASA. There are quite a few pilots here at ASA that never wanted to and still never want to go to mainline. We will fight to get the planes on property here just as I expect you to fight all you can to get them at mainline. I guess we will all see in the next couple years.

 

[HockleyPilot]

GL, everytime I look on here you talk Shet about SkyWest and RR's "insulated" comment. Give it a rest. The basics of SkyWest and any regional, for that matter, is simple. Conservative profits. Sounds pretty smart to me. I bet if DAL could have hedged a little back in the day, it would have insulated them as well. But if DAL did that, it would be....ah......cool......, but SkyWest or ASA......no, ahhhh...that "insulated" comment is arrogent. Oh, SkyWest you just wait.......GIVE IT UP.

The difference between a regional and major. The regional makes a contract for small profit as long as the major is operational. Small risk=conservative profits. Now majors, while the last couple of years weren't nice to them, they stand to lose and make a lot more. When times are good, the company really makes a ton of money. Now if DAL could get a contract like that.......oh, wait....Guarenteed profits, but only 5%, that wayyyyyy too small a margin for your big DAL exec's.
We know you guys are way to good for that.......get off your high horse.....

 

[180ToTheMarker]

That being said, I will fight tooth and nail to get any 705, 90 seater, whatever here at ASA.

I get it. To hell with the furloughed pilots and their families as long as I get to fly a bigger jet and take their job. Shameful man, shameful.

 

[PalmettoPilot]

With the current fee for departure set up there is no way for any regional to lose money period. Unfortunately we are all expendable. Just look at whats happening in Cinncinati and Eagan. Its like an RJ shell game out there. It is extremely important to keep costs in check to make sure you keep what you have. Id rather still have a job then go down screaming at least I made a stand. Sure you may make a stand but you will get stomped all over by everyone else and no one will ever remember what you did for them.

You say that as if you believe the other operating costs are absorbed by mother hen too. NOT. Fee for departure is set, it doesn't change up and down when the pilots negotiate a fair contract. DAL could care less what the pilots are paid. SKYW is the one whose bottom line is affected by employee pay.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

...and have no desire to give up my QOL here at ASA.

QOL at ASA? HA HA HA LMAO.

Have you seen the bid packages lately? 10-12 days off a month for the majority of the pilots. Relief lines with only 10 days off. 3-day trips worth 3 hours of block time. No rhyme or reason to who gets integrated or junior manned. Contract violations. Should I go on?

 

[wms]

And look at all the 30-plus hour layovers at great places like BMI, BVT, etc. I guess that's WH's solution to all of the dead-heading.

 

[atrdriver]

QOL at ASA? HA HA HA LMAO.

Have you seen the bid packages lately? 10-12 days off a month for the majority of the pilots. Relief lines with only 10 days off. 3-day trips worth 3 hours of block time. No rhyme or reason to who gets integrated or junior manned. Contract violations. Should I go on?

No need to go on, he is obviously infected with SJS, and from his comments there is apparantly no hope for his recovery. If all you want to do is fly that neat jet no matter what, ASA is a great place. If you want to have a life, career, family, etc, then it needs some serious improvement. I bet he'd be happy to fly a 747 for $50/hour.

 

[General Lee]

Looks like ASA is Still making money unlike you. They seemed to have left all their agent orange with you and your cohorts. Enjoy that. What a joke that your box is sore over RR's comments. He already owes SkyW pilots an ACE so don't think I am siding with him on any avenue.

You are only making money because of the pay for play deals with DL. How do 50 seat RJs do in high gas price situations? How is Indy Air doing? We will continue to find the cheapest lift, and Comair is seeing that now with the threats over there. Your pay will decrease along with all of us. It is just a matter of time.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

GL, everytime I look on here you talk Shet about SkyWest and RR's "insulated" comment. Give it a rest. The basics of SkyWest and any regional, for that matter, is simple. Conservative profits. Sounds pretty smart to me. I bet if DAL could have hedged a little back in the day, it would have insulated them as well. But if DAL did that, it would be....ah......cool......, but SkyWest or ASA......no, ahhhh...that "insulated" comment is arrogent. Oh, SkyWest you just wait.......GIVE IT UP.

The difference between a regional and major. The regional makes a contract for small profit as long as the major is operational. Small risk=conservative profits. Now majors, while the last couple of years weren't nice to them, they stand to lose and make a lot more. When times are good, the company really makes a ton of money. Now if DAL could get a contract like that.......oh, wait....Guarenteed profits, but only 5%, that wayyyyyy too small a margin for your big DAL exec's.
We know you guys are way to good for that.......get off your high horse.....

My friend in SLC who flies for you sent me that monthly newsletter for employees and I read that exact line "We are insulated from high fuel costs thanks to Delta." Ron was standing there in the picture, with his mullet haircut and his cheesy smile. He also was thinking about how he got you guys to fly any plane for one pay rate. I will continue to slam that guy. You should too, his bonus is getting larger thanks to you guys.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[BlackPilot628]

I . That being said, I will fight tooth and nail to get any 705, 90 seater, whatever here at ASA. There are quite a few pilots here at ASA that never wanted to and still never want to go to mainline. We will fight to get the planes on property here just as I expect you to fight all you can to get them at mainline. I guess we will all see in the next couple years.

You see, people like you are the problem. It's one thing if these airplanes go to ASA and you make $150 bucks an hour on 15 year pay. It's another if we fly for the current rates that Mesa is flying the CRJ9's for.
Come on, there are others of us out here that respect the industry and are doing what we can to help it.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

My friend in SLC who flies for you sent me that monthly newsletter for employees and I read that exact line "We are insulated from high fuel costs thanks to Delta." Ron was standing there in the picture, with his mullet haircut and his cheesy smile. He also was thinking about how he got you guys to fly any plane for one pay rate. I will continue to slam that guy. You should too, his bonus is getting larger thanks to you guys.


Bye Bye--General Lee

Maybe you should just worry about your own house General. I don't see too many SkyWest pilots on here slamming your managment. Besides SkyWest is far better managed than DAL. Something tells me your management enjoyed watching you guys turn your noses up at RJ flying, knowing that they could transfer flying to a low cost provider. Now they're really happy about saddling you with JetBlue rates on those 100 seaters. According to skywest.com Ron Reber has been with the company since the 1970's. How long has your upper management been at DAL? At least Ron Reber can hold down a steady job.

 

[Splert]

General,

SkyWest bought what DAL sold.

You are suffering from a recurring case of seller’s remorse.

If DAL could have found a buyer that would shoulder the operational risk for the same margin they would have sold it (ASA or other code share flying) to them.

A smaller margin to the vendor translates to the major code share partner shouldering the risk for the vendor’s operational expenses.

Have a good day…

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Your pay will decrease along with all of us. It is just a matter of time.


Bye Bye--General Lee

You seem rather happy about that. Kind of pitiful for a soon to be narrow body captain at DAL to be gloating about paycuts at the regionals. In my part of the world we have a word to describe people like you. 7 letters. Starts with "A" and ends with "E." You're a real one.

 

[Splert]

DB,

I think RR has pictures.

 

[Tomct]

Well GL, this is one thing you are completely WRONG about! ASA pilots will NOT be taking a pay cut. Without a pay increase and some DRASTIC improvements in QOL, we will SHUT THIS MOTHA DOWN without even thinking about it! If that were to happen, Ma D would go tits up and Skywst would be losing money like crazy! I don't believe that JA will ever allow it to get to that point, but this pilot group has had it! We have nothing to lose while the other two entities have EVERYTHING to lose! When March comes around and our MEC gets to see the earings for the 4th quarter, ASA mgmnt is really going to have their "T1Ts" in the ringer! Get ready ASA mgnt to CAUGH IT UP!!

 

[General Lee]

You seem rather happy about that. Kind of pitiful for a soon to be narrow body captain at DAL to be gloating about paycuts at the regionals. In my part of the world we have a word to describe people like you. 7 letters. Starts with "A" and ends with "E." You're a real one.

Not happy about it Dave, not at all. I am just stating the truth. We ALL (did you see where I said ALL? Not just YOU) will have our pay cut. Do you really think there will be a slight difference between pay on an RJ and a mainline job? All of our pay will eventually be where it was before in percentages. I never said I was happy about it. Thanks for calling me an A hole. You aren't the first, and probably not the last. Can you handle the truth?


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

Well GL, this is one thing you are completely WRONG about! ASA pilots will NOT be taking a pay cut. Without a pay increase and some DRASTIC improvements in QOL, we will SHUT THIS MOTHA DOWN without even thinking about it! If that were to happen, Ma D would go tits up and Skywst would be losing money like crazy! I don't believe that JA will ever allow it to get to that point, but this pilot group has had it! We have nothing to lose while the other two entities have EVERYTHING to lose! When March comes around and our MEC gets to see the earings for the 4th quarter, ASA mgmnt is really going to have their "T1Ts" in the ringer! Get ready ASA mgnt to CAUGH IT UP!!

I can't wait to see that Tomcat. That will no doubt smack ASA/SkyWest, and the big D. I want you to stand up, but I think ALPA will step in before you shut everyone down. I hope you do stand your ground. It will be interesting no doubt.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[General Lee]

General,

SkyWest bought what DAL sold.

You are suffering from a recurring case of seller’s remorse.

If DAL could have found a buyer that would shoulder the operational risk for the same margin they would have sold it (ASA or other code share flying) to them.

A smaller margin to the vendor translates to the major code share partner shouldering the risk for the vendor’s operational expenses.

Have a good day…

Huh? Ummm, ok. Seller's remorse? I like the ASA pilots, but selling them was a good idea for Delta, we needed the cash. And it is Delta's fault if they go for Mesa and reliability falls. But, you know what they say about the almighty dollar? They honestly don't care. Look at everyone else using Mesa. They will probably go for that. They already have in MCO.

Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Halo_RJdriver]

Huh? Ummm, ok. Seller's remorse? I like the ASA pilots, but selling them was a good idea for Delta, we needed the cash. And it is Delta's fault if they go for Mesa and reliability falls. But, you know what they say about the almighty dollar? They honestly don't care. Look at everyone else using Mesa. They will probably go for that. They already have in MCO.

Bye Bye--General Lee

You still need cash after you took a loss on selling ASA(half of what you paid for them). As far as mesa goes, good luck with that. Maybe you can request quality control right next to scope on your new paperwork for March. There comes a time when the public will notice the quality they get enroute to ATL to catch mainline. mesa will give you your vietnam flashback of DFW you described earlier. Watch out Atlanta.

 

[bayoubandit]

Hey Halo,

Is that the Durango/Silverton Railroad in your avitar?

 

[ERJFO]

That being said, I will fight tooth and nail to get any 705, 90 seater, whatever here at ASA. There are quite a few pilots here at ASA that never wanted to and still never want to go to mainline. We will fight to get the planes on property here just as I expect you to fight all you can to get them at mainline. I guess we will all see in the next couple years.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? You are basically saing "F--K MAINLINE"... I can't believe you are so pro ASA that you want to fight mainline guys over airplanes, why don't you say: "I will flight tooth and nail to improve this industry and prevent sub-standard QOL and pay by supporting Mainline pilots and their wishes to have 70-100 seat airplanes if desired"

Why?

 

[enuffalready]

GENERAL LEE-- ATRDRIVER-- 180 MARKER and anyone else I forgot to quote

ARE YOU KIDDING ME??? You are basically saing "F--K MAINLINE"... I can't believe you are so pro ASA that you want to fight mainline guys over airplanes, why don't you say: "I will flight tooth and nail to improve this industry and prevent sub-standard QOL and pay by supporting Mainline pilots and their wishes to have 70-100 seat airplanes if desired"

--ERJFO



Thats exactly what I am saying. Let me say it again. I don't care about mainline pilots and their dreams. The question you need to ask is do you really think anyone at mainline gives a sheet about you??

these are guys that greenslip while their own are on furlough, then scream bloody murder about RJ replacement??

Come on now, don't be so naive.

AS far as addressing GL, ATR and anyone who said I had SJS, you couldn't be more wrong. I am very fortunate, as I have income outside of ASA. I laughed at the management proposal. 50% deadhead, $0 cancelation, etc, etc. All a joke and I'd vote no tomorrow. And unlike most of you cowards who say you will vote no, then miraculously the vote is 75% yes, I can actually shut it down, walk away, know I had fun, flew with some great people and go about my life!

The QOL issue has already been addresd. I am an ASA FO. I fly NAPS, I never have to deal with the airport appreciation breaks, 40 hour overnights in dothan and 4 day trips. When I said QOL I meant that I do not have ANY desire to go Mainline anywhere. Fedex, Delta, Cathay PAcific, Southwest, etc. I have no desire to start over and fly weekends, holidays and 4 day trips as a junior FO just to fly mainline. Thats my QOL that i will not give up. So yes. I would like to see the 705 and 90's at ASA. What makes me any different than the Fedex guys that wants 380's or the Delta guy that wants more ER's?

 

[Iflyamouse]

Maybe Skywest should just drop the codeshare w/ DAL and let DAL fly their 75's and 76's between SLC, CVG, and ATL with 50 people on them. Let's see how long DAL (or any other major for that matter) lasts under that model.

Fact is, under the current hub/spoke system, we need each other in order to survive. Sure, Skywest (or any other regional) may be insulated from fuel hikes, but regionals insulate the majors from empty airplanes. Reber isn't being cocky, he's just stating a fact.

 

[180ToTheMarker]

So yes. I would like to see the 705 and 90's at ASA. What makes me any different than the Fedex guys that wants 380's or the Delta guy that wants more ER's?

The difference is that those airplanes wouldn't lead to more furloughs from the mainline. Getting bigger RJs would.

 

[~~~^~~~]

General:

Delta sets the terms of their codeshare agreement. There may be a little negotiating (in the form of price matching) but Delta definately is in control of the contracts to outsource their flying.

Why then, do you think Delta pushes these cost+ agreements? Could it be that Delta gets more revenue for less expense than the old agreements which truly were revenue sharing contracts? There is some reason why Delta likes the deals and it must be profit.

 

[enuffalready]

"The difference is that those airplanes wouldn't lead to more furloughs from the mainline. Getting bigger RJs would"

180 marker guy



Ok, I'll bite. And everytime Southwest buys another 737 and goes into pittsburgh or maybe one day charlotte and that leads to more furloughs at USAIR. DO you think the guys at Southwest give a sheet?

Why do I give a sheet if a delta guy is furloughed. It has been made abundantly clear over and over by every mainline loudmouth, condescending, nimrod that ASA is NOT DELTA. SO ask me again why I should care about mainline furloughs? Do you think they would ever think...'Hey guys. COmair is going to furlough soon. Why don't we take an 88 out of a city and replace it with 2 70's so that that furloughed Comair guys don't get furloughed?'..... gimme a break


180MARKER GUY--

nice boortz link-- Do you think Boortz cares that he furloughs another talk show host every time he is syndicated in a new market?