Skywest Open House

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Bobbyice:

We are not "taking jobs from Delta." The Delta MEC negotiated scope, it was ratified, voted on by their pilots and again ratified by ALPA's President. ASA pilots were not represented, did not participate in and did not vote on the Delta scope. In fact, we were specifically excluded from participating.

So how did we "take" anything? Sounds to me like the Delta pilots abandoned flying they felt was beneath them.

Skywest's "concessions" if the folks on the board want to use that term, was accepting a 50 to 90 seat pay rate. Again, ASA pilots have the choice and have chosen not to follow in the path which leads to the diminishment of this profession.

That has been the end of several airlines. Indy Air and Eastern were both full pay to the last day. It is a tremendous price to pay, but my sense is that we will remain loyal to the cause. We remained focused after the Comair pilots sold us out and while we never had solidarity with our fellow pilots at Skywest, I don't see us coming down to your level on the 70 seat flying.

After all, a 70 seater brings in 40% more revenue than a 50 seater. That justifies a little more pay. That little bit makes the difference whether my First Officer earns enough to support themselves.

 

[737 Pylt]

Bobbyice:

We are not "taking jobs from Delta." The Delta MEC negotiated scope, it was ratified, voted on by their pilots and again ratified by ALPA's President. ASA pilots were not represented, did not participate in and did not vote on the Delta scope. In fact, we were specifically excluded from participating.

So how did we "take" anything? Sounds to me like the Delta pilots abandoned flying they felt was beneath them.

Skywest's "concessions" if the folks on the board want to use that term, was accepting a 50 to 90 seat pay rate. Again, ASA pilots have the choice and have chosen not to follow in the path which leads to the diminishment of this profession.

That has been the end of several airlines. Indy Air and Eastern were both full pay to the last day. It is a tremendous price to pay, but my sense is that we will remain loyal to the cause. We remained focused after the Comair pilots sold us out and while we never had solidarity with our fellow pilots at Skywest, I don't see us coming down to your level on the 70 seat flying.

After all, a 70 seater brings in 40% more revenue than a 50 seater. That justifies a little more pay. That little bit makes the difference whether my First Officer earns enough to support themselves.

Typical fins....Its the DL pilots' fault. No wait, the CMR pilots sold us out....Wait again, its the SKYW pilots for their 70 seat pay scale.
Your drivel gets older by the day, but catching your hypocricy makes it all worth wild!
737

 

[bobbyice]

Typical fins....Its the DL pilots' fault. No wait, the CMR pilots sold us out....Wait again, its the SKYW pilots for their 70 seat pay scale.
Your drivel gets older by the day, but catching your hypocricy makes it all worth wild!
737

Nah Pylt, I'll take the blame for this one. I've said it before and I'll say it again...when I got on with SKW, my only goal was to take away jobs from ACEY. At least that's what fins would have you believe. The cat's out of the bag. Last year, us SKW pilots had a super-secret meeting to strategize on how we could wreck the careers of ACEY pilots. DAL had representation there as well. Our evil plans are finally coming to fruition! HA HA HA!

 

[737 Pylt]

Nah Pylt, I'll take the blame for this one. I've said it before and I'll say it again...when I got on with SKW, my only goal was to take away jobs from ACEY. At least that's what fins would have you believe. The cat's out of the bag. Last year, us SKW pilots had a super-secret meeting to strategize on how we could wreck the careers of ACEY pilots. DAL had representation there as well. Our evil plans are finally coming to fruition! HA HA HA!

OK, how about we share some of the blame. I share a similar story, only my pilot group had an alternate agenda. You see we had secret meetings to try and stop all ASA pilots only from having non rev priviliges on any DL aircraft....At least that's what mr. hypocrite (~~~^~~~) would have everyone believe. He is just a bitter person because his little lawsuit didn't get him the $$millions he sought out to get!
Anyway, we'll share the blame.
Cheers,
737

 

[JoeMerchant]

I don't blame bobbyice, nor 737pylt, nor fins, nor General Lee. The fact is, we all work for separate companies and we will all look out for number one. Number one is each of us. I do blame ALPA for pretending to be a national union and feeding us all a load of BS about how we will all look out for each other and ALPA is a "brotherhood". It would be nice if we really had a national union, but we don't. Therefor we are all competing against each other whether we like it or not.

 

[JoeMerchant]

OK, how about we share some of the blame. I share a similar story, only my pilot group had an alternate agenda. You see we had secret meetings to try and stop all ASA pilots only from having non rev priviliges on any DL aircraft....At least that's what mr. hypocrite (~~~^~~~) would have everyone believe. He is just a bitter person because his little lawsuit didn't get him the $$millions he sought out to get!
Anyway, we'll share the blame.
Cheers,
737

Actually your MEC has filed grievances against the ASA and CMR pass privledges. Your MEC has also filed grievances against CMR shuttle flying and ASA BAE146 flying. I understand that your pilot group had their reason, but the fact is, ALPA was filing grievances that would have hurt ASA and CMR pilots. This pretending that we are a union while we all compete against each other for work is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. This isn't a union and we are fighting each other. We are all suffering and you mainline guys have actually lost more than we have. Maybe you guys will realize that we all need to work together.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Skywest's "concessions" if the folks on the board want to use that term, was accepting a 50 to 90 seat pay rate. Again, ASA pilots have the choice and have chosen not to follow in the path which leads to the diminishment of this profession.

Don't you work with a pilot group that rolled over on PFT? And you want to explain how that didn't diminish the profession a lot more than any SKYW payscale? Hypocrite isn't a strong enough word to describe a guy like you.