SKYWEST in LAX

[Torpid]

...FAT and PSP don't have enough RJ's flowing through.

FAT has 5 RJ's and 4 Bro's that RON there. I'm pretty sure the Bro needs mx too!

 

[Hypoxik]

Delta is only keeping a few Connection routes out of LAX. Looks like SFO, OAK, SJC, SMF, and maybe RNO. So it must be a mix of UA and DL flying with that many slots.

 

[captain822]

Delta is only keeping a few Connection routes out of LAX. Looks like SFO, OAK, SJC, SMF, and maybe RNO. So it must be a mix of UA and DL flying with that many slots.

What are they doing with the Mexico flying that Expressjet was doing? LTO, LAP, MZT, HMO, CUL, TOR, etc...

 

[McNugget]

mesa - the proverbial turd in the punchbowl !

skywest is no peach, either. They're one of the originators of 70-seat flying for 50-seat pay. Although, today, they walk around like their $hit doesn't stink.

 

[imisscorplife]

It does make sense. I was in on a conversation just recently with a couple of checkairman (they seemed to know what they were talking about) that said that Skywest eventually wants to have "Superbases". SFO is the next big base to open and with several more closures except for FAT. SBA will be the last to close in California. Even SAN will go away. COS is safe but TUS is up in the air. (I wonder if TUS is dependent on whether Skywest gets US Air flying out of PHX). Skywest is transforming into a different kind of company. All this to take place over the next 2 years.

TUS will be around for at least 5 more years since Skywest just moved out of their cruddy open hangar and into Bombardiers hangar with a 5 year lease. If PHX did open Im sure TUS would still be a small base or they would be doing a lot of ferry flights for C checks and major MX.

 

[BigLebowski]

LAX will be for United.

The a/c lost for midwest in MKE I believe two will be spares and the others will go for the XJet flying but will be based on SLC.

 

[BigLebowski]

skywest is no peach, either. They're one of the originators of 70-seat flying for 50-seat pay. Although, today, they walk around like their $hit doesn't stink.

Awe sounds like someone got the "thanks but no thanks" from skyw.

 

[difete]

So United CRJ700 out of LAX. And CRJ200s added to Delta SLC, what about the Delta LAX flying?

 

[Erlanger]

So United CRJ700 out of LAX. And CRJ200s added to Delta SLC, what about the Delta LAX flying?

The DAL LAX flying is being done mostly by the SLC crews. Some months in the past, other bases got a little of that flying too when they flowed through SLC onto LAX. XJT didn't/doesn't have an exclusive on all that flying. Skywest was still doing some of that flying too but XJT was doing most of it.

 

[Morning Wood]

They said CR7 the united 700's are called CR6's. My guess its a mix of Delta and United flying

CR6 is a Flight Trac designation to deliniate between the DL and UA configurations. I've never seen CR6 used anywhere else.

 

[Morning Wood]

All of our C-Checks are done in TUS and they signed a 10 year lease on the hanger. It's my understanding that they didn't build because the city wouldn't put up the money to build the infrastructure. You have to maintain the airplanes some where and you can't do it in LA or SFO; FAT and PSP don't have enough RJ's flowing through. TUS has 7 or more RONs and pilot bases usually coincide with MX bases. I'm not selling my house yet.

Some of the C-Checks are being in Clarksburg, WV.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

It does make sense. I was in on a conversation just recently with a couple of checkairman (they seemed to know what they were talking about) that said that Skywest eventually wants to have "Superbases". SFO is the next big base to open and with several more closures except for FAT. SBA will be the last to close in California. Even SAN will go away. COS is safe but TUS is up in the air. (I wonder if TUS is dependent on whether Skywest gets US Air flying out of PHX). Skywest is transforming into a different kind of company. All this to take place over the next 2 years.

I'm talking about "making sense" from a standpoint of the fact that 1) They tried the LAX base in the past and closed it pretty quick like when it didn't work, and 2) It would be nice to see a little more loyalty to the long term employees that made a decision to stay at Skyw based on not commuting and and being able to fly out of the same area they chose to live!

 

[Caspian27]

I'm talking about "making sense" from a standpoint of the fact that 1) They tried the LAX base in the past and closed it pretty quick like when it didn't work, and 2) It would be nice to see a little more loyalty to the long term employees that made a decision to stay at Skyw based on not commuting and and being able to fly out of the same area they chose to live!

So if one of our major partners chooses to reduce frequency, reduce RON aircraft or stop flying to MRY at all, OO should just foot the bill and keep flying there at risk just for loyalty?

There are some facets of outstation domiciles that a regional just can't control.

 

[waveflyer]

Awe sounds like someone got the "thanks but no thanks" from skyw.

everyone in the industry should be upset at that broken promise.

 

[Speedtape]

I'm talking about "making sense" from a standpoint of the fact that 1) They tried the LAX base in the past and closed it pretty quick like when it didn't work, and 2) It would be nice to see a little more loyalty to the long term employees that made a decision to stay at Skyw based on not commuting and and being able to fly out of the same area they chose to live!

For a reality check--just talk to any ConEX or ASA pilot that was based in LAX. You and I are expendable and our preferences as to where we live are not a factor for the Marketing department that ultimately makes those decisions. Therefore, you can live in a major base (SLC) with some degree of stability, or you can be nomadic, but live where you want. It's really always been that way in this industry.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

So if one of our major partners chooses to reduce frequency, reduce RON aircraft or stop flying to MRY at all, OO should just foot the bill and keep flying there at risk just for loyalty?

There are some facets of outstation domiciles that a regional just can't control.

I didn't say that at all...My response was to Erlanger's comment that they want to close more domiciles and go to superbases in LAX and SFO.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

For a reality check--just talk to any ConEX or ASA pilot that was based in LAX. You and I are expendable and our preferences as to where we live are not a factor for the Marketing department that ultimately makes those decisions. Therefore, you can live in a major base (SLC) with some degree of stability, or you can be nomadic, but live where you want. It's really always been that way in this industry.

For a reality check-- If they close all the outer domiciles, they still will have the airplanes overnighting in those out stations(former bases) and will end up paying for hotels there, instead of LAX. One of the reasons they made SAN a co-domicile with CLD was because we were overnighting there all the time anyway and the company was paying for hotel rooms that really weren't needed(a lot of crews ended up going home).

If they can keep SGU as the company headquarters(in the middle of nowhere), they could certainly continue to keep open the domiciles around that have been with the company just as long...

 

[WalterSobchak]

If they can keep SGU as the company headquarters(in the middle of nowhere)...

God, I wish it wasn't. Anywhere but SGU.

Preferably somewhere with direct flights to DFW, please...

 

[Skyjet]

For a reality check-- If they close all the outer domiciles, they still will have the airplanes overnighting in those out stations(former bases) and will end up paying for hotels there, instead of LAX. One of the reasons they made SAN a co-domicile with CLD was because we were overnighting there all the time anyway and the company was paying for hotel rooms that really weren't needed(a lot of crews ended up going home).

If they can keep SGU as the company headquarters(in the middle of nowhere), they could certainly continue to keep open the domiciles around that have been with the company just as long...

Why should 96% of the pilots pay the price of bad lines and schedules just so a few can live in small bases. A few big bases will make better more efficient lines. I VOTE TO CLOSE THE TINY BASES AND MAKE LAX BIGGER.

 

[Fishpaw]

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