SkyWest haters....start your engines!!!!

[SkyNation]

read and enjoy!

http://airlinesafety.com/Unions/index.htm


Ready your rants! Who will be first?!

 

[goahead]

Bored with those cowards on here

 

[PCL_128]

read and enjoy!

http://airlinesafety.com/Unions/index.htm


Ready your rants! Who will be first?!

Rant? Why bother? You just can't cure stupidity.

 

[SkyNation]

the website is stupid, or does being suspect of ALPA automatically make you stupid?

 

[wmuflyguy]

the website is stupid, or does being suspect of ALPA automatically make you stupid?

The website is.

 

[Whydoitry]

Really are you kidding? Every job should be unionized. Who do you guys think you are? The great lie is that the working man should be a part of the Republican party.Unless you are a GOD fearing, anti abortionist, there is no rational reason why you should support the Republican party. They, meaning Republicans, do not support Conservative views on economics. So why should a Conservative support a Republican? Our President is a moron, and the Congress, both houses Republican, is useless. Every pilot should be a part of a union, the problems with ALPA need to be corrected but they are a lot better than being management flunkies.

 

[PCL_128]

the website is stupid, or does being suspect of ALPA automatically make you stupid?

Nothing wrong with asking questions about ALPA (being "suspect" is going a little far, however), but an entire website that is based on the premise that union are evil is asinine.

 

[MYFpilot]

read and enjoy!

http://airlinesafety.com/Unions/index.htm


Ready your rants! Who will be first?!

Sounds like the author of this website has a serious vendetta against one Frederick Dubinsky.

Anyway, here's some excerpts from a link on his website, that I thought were interesting...

From:
SkyWest Thrives on the Atkin Diet

Under CEO Jerry Atkin, the Utah-based Regional has found the recipe for success

By Sandra Arnoult
In St. George, Utah
Air Transport World, April 2005

...Flexible Workforce Owing to the fact of a nonunion workforce, SkyWest enjoys more flexibility than many of its competitors. Last year its pilots agreed to operate 70- and 90-seat aircraft at the same rates as 50-seaters. The agreement expires this year, but company officials are hopeful a similar arrangement can be negotiated.

"I think beyond the salary part is that we meet the needs of our pilots better," he says. "We aren't the highest paid in the industry and we aren't going to be. But we have incentive-based programs, share-the-wealth types of things."

He agrees that a challenge of having a multimillion-dollar cash surplus-one many airlines gladly would embrace-is that employees may see it as a reason for generous salary increases. But he says the cash just means SkyWest has more options available, has an easier time acquiring aircraft and is guaranteed a better rate of credit than "anyone else in the industry."

 

[ReverseSensing]

Last year its pilots agreed to operate 70- and 90-seat aircraft at the same rates as 50-seaters. The agreement expires this year, but company officials are hopeful a similar arrangement can be negotiated.

Oh, that's rich! By negotiate, I guess management means just do nothing, and voila!: "similar arrangement!"

 

[nimtz]

Gee why was I suprised to find that my suspicions were right on! The editor-in-chief is on the UAL '85 Scab List! Probably was the type that scabbed so he could be a captain. Sounds like just the type of person I would trust with advice towards an airline career...

 

[Ponchus pilot]

The question is who is behind this website?

 

[sqwkvfr]

Really are you kidding? Every job should be unionized. Who do you guys think you are? The great lie is that the working man should be a part of the Republican party.Unless you are a GOD fearing, anti abortionist, there is no rational reason why you should support the Republican party. They, meaning Republicans, do not support Conservative views on economics. So why should a Conservative support a Republican? Our President is a moron, and the Congress, both houses Republican, is useless. Every pilot should be a part of a union, the problems with ALPA need to be corrected but they are a lot better than being management flunkies.

Really?

Why don't you do me a favor and list ....oh, let's start small here....five nationwide examples of things that Democrats have done to help organized labor -and airline industry employees in particular- over the last ten years.

I'll tell you what...I'll even let you extend it out to fifteen years just to help you out a bit.

 

[btrthn5n5]

I love these witty banters from flightinfo. Quick question... Do most carriers that operate both 757 and 767 airframes pay the same for both?

 

[sstearns2]

Really?

Why don't you do me a favor and list ....oh, let's start small here....five nationwide examples of things that Democrats have done to help organized labor -and airline industry employees in particular- over the last ten years.

I'll tell you what...I'll even let you extend it out to fifteen years just to help you out a bit.

OK, I'll help you out. Let's compare democrats and republicans.

Clinton and a democratic congress passed the Family Medical Leave Act in 1993. Everyone now takes it for granted that they can take a couple weeks off when their dad gets seriously ill or they have a baby without worrying about loosing their job. Bush Sr. vetoed the bill in 1990 and Bush Jr is trying to whittle away at it.

Clinton raised the minimum wage twice and it hasn't been raised in 10 years now and it's at the lowest level since sometime before 1955 adjusted for inflation.

Bush signed 'pension reform' in 2002 and 2006 that had nothing to do with protecting people's pensions. The 2006 bill specifically relaxed the rules for how airlines contribute to their pensions.

I want to go into Bush's failed attempt to destroy Social Security, but I'm out of time for now, maybe I'll come back later and add some more.

Scott

 

[TNHillbilly]

at my second job i make minimum wage and it just got raised last Jan. and it is getting ready to get raised again.

 

[Tomct]

I love these witty banters from flightinfo. Quick question... Do most carriers that operate both 757 and 767 airframes pay the same for both?

Look man, I know that it is hard....but stop comparing yourselves with bigiron drivers! But for what it is worth...they get paid a much better "Blended Rate" and oh yeah...they HAVE a say in what happens at their carriers! I know...nothing you can understand, but just TRY, OKAY!

 

[SkyNation]

Tomct

#16! you're slippin'! My money was on you, outtahere, FlyinPiker or www. to come in first with your 'SkyWest pilots are the root of all our problems, they have no say even though they make more than us and JUST WAIT Jerry will come after you next' speech.

disappointing, my friend.

 

[catIIIc]

I love these witty banters from flightinfo. Quick question... Do most carriers that operate both 757 and 767 airframes pay the same for both?

No!!! The pilots are qualified to fly them both but the pay is different, I know for a fact at CAL and AA the 76 pays more then the 75, even at CAL the 737-800,900 pay more then the 300's and 500's. That is the same at DAL also.
I was at SkyWest when this was voted on and voted no, this was probably the worst thing we could of done,and will continue as you guys fly the bigger CL65's for the same pay. I enjoyed my time at SkyWest, I enjoyed my quick upgrade but I still thought the 50-99 seat was a very bad idea.

 

[BigLebowski]

I'm kinda confused about this ALPA drive...can anyone tell me what ALPA national has done to help their company.

ASA, Pinnacle, Mesaba, Trans States, Mesa...can any of you guys tell me how ALPA has helped you. I know how much ALPA helped those TSA guys out by allowing management to create an alter-ego...gee where was almighty ALPA on that one.

The days of a powerful union are long gone.

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Watch Mesaba, if the pilots strike NWA will have to go to Skywest for the flying. You may be given the choice of alpa or the scab list.

 

[sstearns2]

Some states have a minimum wage that exceeds the federal minimum wage.

Scott

 

[Gr82Aviate]

I'm kinda confused about this ALPA drive...can anyone tell me what ALPA national has done to help their company.

ASA, Pinnacle, Mesaba, Trans States, Mesa...can any of you guys tell me how ALPA has helped you. I know how much ALPA helped those TSA guys out by allowing management to create an alter-ego...gee where was almighty ALPA on that one.

The days of a powerful union are long gone.

So, I guess you're saying that because some major slimeball management types found a way to hose a union pilot group, this means the unions are no good?

 

[BigLebowski]

No, not at all. All I'm wondering is what ALPA has done for the regionals lately that makes them so wonderful.

Because I don't feel they have done anything for anyone besides collect dues and say it's out of our hands.

 

[wmuflyguy]

No, not at all. All I'm wondering is what ALPA has done for the regionals lately that makes them so wonderful.

Because I don't feel they have done anything for anyone besides collect dues and say it's out of our hands.

What has SkyWest done for all the other regionals? Everyone blames ALPA, the real problem is that a group of pilots decided to do the same work for considerably less than others.

 

[Tomct]

Tomct

#16! you're slippin'! My money was on you,, outtahere, FlyinPiker or www. to come in first with your 'SkyWest pilots are the root of all our problems, they have no say even though they make more than us and JUST WAIT Jerry will come after you next' speech.

disappointing, my friend.

Once again Nation prooving WHY most pilots are skywst haters....

 

[BigLebowski]

You're answering a question with a question. What do you mean what has SkyWest done for the other regionals...what are they supposed to do.

I would like to know where you get your information from as well. We do not do work for considerably less than others. We have a competitive pay rate and I would have to say that our quality of life here is far better than at the majority of the other regionals I have seen lately...ALPA regionals included.

I am not in any way bashing ALPA. All I want someone to do is explain to me as a whole the good ALPA has done for the regionals. If they have done the regionals good...please tell me how, I'm curious. But if you're firing back at me with no answers...that should probably tell you something.

I used to work for a regional carrier represented by ALPA...my QOL, pay, benefits, and relationship with the company is far better here than it was there.

 

[Tomct]

Watch Mesaba, if the pilots strike NWA will have to go to Skywest for the flying. You may be given the choice of alpa or the scab list.

Unfortunately, this could be VERY TRUE! Would NOT want to have to make THAT choice! Could possibly mean flying the RJ for your entire career....hope they like their jobs!

 

[Tomct]

You're answering a question with a question. What do you mean what has SkyWest done for the other regionals...what are they supposed to do.

I would like to know where you get your information from as well. We do not do work for considerably less than others. We have a competitive pay rate and I would have to say that our quality of life here is far better than at the majority of the other regionals I have seen lately...ALPA regionals included.

I am not in any way bashing ALPA. All I want someone to do is explain to me as a whole the good ALPA has done for the regionals. If they have done the regionals good...please tell me how, I'm curious. But if you're firing back at me with no answers...that should probably tell you something.

I used to work for a regional carrier represented by ALPA...my QOL, pay, benefits, and relationship with the company is far better here than it was there.

Big, remember that your "local" union chapter is ONLY as strong as your leaders. Did you volunteer? Did you do anything besides point fingers? You vote on those that represent you and if it did not work well for you, vote someone else into the leadership! I can tell you that without ALPA here at ASA, we would have been screwed worse than we have been lately. Remember that all those "neat" QOL things that you HAVE at skywst is because of all the other carriers raising the bar and forcing JA to keep his pilots competative or get the union on his property. So, you guys may have it GREAT over there....but it is due to the hard work of the other "UNION" carriers pushing ever harder for a better contract!

 

[flylowman]

On the political side. Lets not forget Carter (Dem. GA) who deregulated airline, and also killed the farming industry in the USA. If you want higher taxes, interest rates, a smaller military and more terrorism Vote Democrat.

 

[Tomct]

On the political side. Lets not forget Carter (Dem. GA) who deregulated airline, and also killed the farming industry in the USA. If you want higher taxes, interest rates, a smaller military and more terrorism Vote Democrat.

AMEN BROTHER!!!!!