Skywest Growth/Movement?

[Positive Rate]

So the last scheduled CRJ delivery.....is this Oct. ......So I m guessing the growth and movement(other than attrition) is going to slow down........Anyone have any news or insight?

 

[Flip]

Airtran will buy Midwest and buy out the Midwest contract with Skywest? Leaving negative growth and too many pilots?

 

[Jmoney]

Skywest feeding Midwest....

Looks to me like Skywest only flies one route for Midwest- From MCI to MKE. Am I missing something? Doesn't look like a huge impact if they only lose one route.
-J

 

[AdolphOlivrbush]

yeah, you're missing a lot. MKE is a domicile with several destinations. if airtran buys midwest, contract is still in place. skyw has been talking with airtran about the purchase as well--the flying won't go away, it might actually increase. 30 DL 900s up for bid this fall...we'll obviously bid on those and see what happens.

 

[HockleyPilot]

Midwest is like 10 airplanes, if we lost that then we might get back up to speed on staffing. It will be fine.

We still have fairly high attrition due to other airlines hiring and others are just tired of the direction this company is going. Combine that with less people willing to sit in SLC for 6 weeks for 19.02 an hr., and staffing is becoming a real issue.

We can't get or keep rampers, CS, or other laborers. There are tons of forums where people are complaining about pay and being overworked. Yet, management is doing nothing.

Oh yea, don't forget all the scandals going on in the good ole' boys club known as SAPA.

 

[Tim47SIP]

Midwest is like 10 airplanes, if we lost that then we might get back up to speed on staffing. It will be fine.

We still have fairly high attrition due to other airlines hiring and others are just tired of the direction this company is going. Combine that with less people willing to sit in SLC for 6 weeks for 19.02 an hr., and staffing is becoming a real issue.

We can't get or keep rampers, CS, or other laborers. There are tons of forums where people are complaining about pay and being overworked. Yet, management is doing nothing.

Oh yea, don't forget all the scandals going on in the good ole' boys club known as SAPA.

Are you sure your not talking about ASA?? I thought we were the only ones with major problems??

 

[DenverCrashpad]

SkyWest has 15 in service with Midwest and can be awarded 10 more in Sept. Mesa, soon imploding, keeps giving up UA flying which ends up in open time. When in the past 30 years hasn't SkyWest been growing?

 

[SkyNation]

the problems of growth, staffing, filling classes, etc. are not unique to skywest. it is a symptom of the current environment affecting the whole industry.

upgrade classes are scheduled through the end of the year for each month, and I imagine that will continue into 2008 as people continue to leave for other jobs at SWA, DAL, etc.

a 23 year guy once told me 'growth has always been part of the picture here at skywest.'

 

[russtgol]

Skywest will buy Midwest and add it to the Skywest Inc... Skywest has alot of money in the bank and you cant make more money unless you invest... Also Skywest has been looking for a reservation system.. They are quite expensive and Midwest already has one...

 

[CitationLover]

Skywest will buy Midwest and add it to the Skywest Inc... Skywest has alot of money in the bank and you cant make more money unless you invest... Also Skywest has been looking for a reservation system.. They are quite expensive and Midwest already has one...

they don't have more "money in the bank" versus airtran. reservation system? what is this a rehash of lorenzo buying eastern for a reservation system?

 

[russtgol]

they don't have more "money in the bank" versus airtran. reservation system? what is this a rehash of lorenzo buying eastern for a reservation system?

I see you must still be drunk or high from last night.. If Airtran has all this money then why don't they just pay cash for Midwest instead of offering shares???

 

[nickgutnick]

I think it would be better if Skywest bought Midwest....just think of all the money that would be saved on paint.....all you would have to do is change three letters from Mid to Sky. Just makes more sense from a business standpoint to me. Skywest will be laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

yeah, you're missing a lot. MKE is a domicile with several destinations. if airtran buys midwest, contract is still in place. skyw has been talking with airtran about the purchase as well--the flying won't go away, it might actually increase. 30 DL 900s up for bid this fall...we'll obviously bid on those and see what happens.

Where did you get the information on 30 Delta CRJ-900s up for bid this fall?

 

[DoinTime]

--the flying won't go away, it might actually increase.

Yeah....Airtran loves 50 seat lift. Just look at their Air Wisconsin experiment.

30 DL 900s up for bid this fall...we'll obviously bid on those and see what happens.

Are you refering to the 30 aircraft that has already been awarded to PCL (16) and Mesa (14)? I don't believe there is room in the Delta scope clause for more -900's beyond the Comair, PCL, and Mesa birds still to be delivered.

 

[USCtrojan]

they don't have more "money in the bank" versus airtran. reservation system? what is this a rehash of lorenzo buying eastern for a reservation system?

Skywest is projected to have over 1 billion in the bank by the end of 2007 according to the annual report. I would say that it is certainly accurate on that account.

Trojan

 

[Morning Wood]

Skywest will buy Midwest and add it to the Skywest Inc... Skywest has alot of money in the bank and you cant make more money unless you invest... Also Skywest has been looking for a reservation system.. They are quite expensive and Midwest already has one...

Since SkyWest does all of its flying as three different code shares, each with its own res system, why would they want a res system of its own? I don't think they'd buy Midwest for the sole purpose of getting a res system. Sabre View isn't exactly PARS that TWA was able to sell for a lot of money.

 

[russtgol]

Geez only 1 billion in the bank buy the end of the year... Sounds like Skywest is hitting rock bottom... I guess that puts them out of the running for the Midwest purchase... Looks like the Skywest Inc. family will be surviving on Ramen Noodles for a while!

 

[BoilerUP]

Soon to be ONE BILLION DOLLARS in the bank and they still pay newhire pilots less than $20/hr...

 

[russtgol]

Since SkyWest does all of its flying as three different code shares, each with its own res system, why would they want a res system of its own? I don't think they'd buy Midwest for the sole purpose of getting a res system. Sabre View isn't exactly PARS that TWA was able to sell for a lot of money.

Skywest does'nt have there own Res system... They use Delta's and United's... Buying Midwest they would have there own low cost carrier with the Res system already installed... All they would have to do is slap the "INC" on the end of it and it does'nt affect there flying with Delta and United! Makes perfect sense to me seeing they want to continue to grow!

 

[nickgutnick]

Stupid company making money......not paying you your fair share....you should call your sapa rep and demand a raise.....don't let anyone else know your practically flying for free(thats frowned upon around here). you should call your flight instructor and tell him you're not making the six figures he promised you'd be making your first year. $20 / hour! How can you afford those cool sunglasses and all the dippity doo for you hair....oh well at least you can tell everybody your a pilot!

 

[russtgol]

Stupid company making money......not paying you your fair share....you should call your sapa rep and demand a raise.....don't let anyone else know your practically flying for free(thats frowned upon around here). you should call your flight instructor and tell him you're not making the six figures he promised you'd be making your first year. $20 / hour! How can you afford those cool sunglasses and all the dippity doo for you hair....oh well at least you can tell everybody your a pilot!

Yeah the sunglasses are pretty cool!!!

 

[CitationLover]

Geez only 1 billion in the bank buy the end of the year... Sounds like Skywest is hitting rock bottom... I guess that puts them out of the running for the Midwest purchase... Looks like the Skywest Inc. family will be surviving on Ramen Noodles for a while!

what about the LDS tithe, is that in there?

if they make so much money why do they fly 70+ seaters for 50 seat wages? where is ASA's contract?

1 billion in the bank is a waste of capital.

 

[i fly boxes]

Yeah....Airtran loves 50 seat lift. Just look at their Air Wisconsin experiment.




Are you refering to the 30 aircraft that has already been awarded to PCL (16) and Mesa (14)? I don't believe there is room in the Delta scope clause for more -900's beyond the Comair, PCL, and Mesa birds still to be delivered.

I dont know anything about how many aircraft are allowed by delta, but I do believe Pinnacle will end up with somewhere around 30 900's

 

[AdolphOlivrbush]

The 30 900s comment came from JA's mouth while I was in recurrent! He also stated that AirTran offered Midwest WAY more than what he had in mind for his offer, and that the shareholders of Midwest would be crazy to not let AT buy them. Straight facts from the man.

 

[DoinTime]

The 30 900s comment came from JA's mouth while I was in recurrent! He also stated that AirTran offered Midwest WAY more than what he had in mind for his offer, and that the shareholders of Midwest would be crazy to not let AT buy them. Straight facts from the man.

Wow....you actually believe the crap that comes out of your executives mouths? How does the Koolaide taste?

What would Skywest do with ALPA on the property anyway?

 

[HockleyPilot]

Skywest does'nt have there own Res system... They use Delta's and United's... Buying Midwest they would have there own low cost carrier with the Res system already installed... All they would have to do is slap the "INC" on the end of it and it does'nt affect there flying with Delta and United! Makes perfect sense to me seeing they want to continue to grow!

And you think United and Delta would be peachy happy that one of their feed partners owning a "direct competition carrier"?

I seriously doubt it.

SKW is smart enough to not bite the hand that feeds them......


ps. unless it was just too good of a deal. kinda like asa, and we all know how that turned out...

 

[sweptback]

ps. unless it was just too good of a deal. kinda like asa, and we all know how that turned out...

How exactly did it turn out?

 

[trip]

And you think United and Delta would be peachy happy that one of their feed partners owning a "direct competition carrier"?

Allready being done by Express Jet! yet DL hands out the flying to them in the same town??

 

[trip]

What would Skywest do with ALPA on the property anyway?

ALPA has been on the property for a couple years now. ASA

 

[TAWS]

You guys are hilarious ............. You actually think that Delta doesn't know that both PCL and MESA can't staff what they already have on their plates?
How many flights did MESA canx last month? How many did PCL canx?
I wouldn't be surprised if DAL rethought who was getting what. Oh yeah, it doesn't matter if the BK judge awarded it, they'll go back and tell him it can't be staffed by those 2 airlines and suddenly SkyWest will be off and running again!