Skywest Cabin Nazi?????

[flylike44]

Drive if you're going to bring your screaming life ruiner on board to annoy everyone.

 

[ehaecker]

+1 on that!
I can't stand out of control kids in airplanes/airports. If you can't control your kid, you have no business bringing him/her along with you to annoy all other customers... not to mention that it's a safety issue. I understand that there are always exceptions (family emergency, etc...) but it seems that most of the "annoying kid" scenarios are just perfect examples of poor parenting and complete disregard for others comfort/sanity.

 

[piav8r]

Interesting... so I shouldn't be allowed to travel if I have a kid?

I do the best I can to keep my child quiet, but more than likely the first time he is on an airplane he is probably going to cry because it is a new experience, and he will be scared. I will gladly appologize to anyone sitting next to me and will probably try to seat myself in an area of the plane that is as open as possible... but give me a break, kids cry!

If you don't like it, buy a first class ticket where kids aren't allowed! But I have traveled next to many a crying child and I don't let it bother me because it is a fact of life.

Get over yourself...

 

[Blucher]

Kids are allowed in first class.

 

[skypine69]

pretty easy to see who has kids on here and who does not

 

[CFIT]

pretty easy to see who has kids on here and who does not

Or the ones that realize that children need discipline and guidance and the one's that think the Flight Attendant is their own personal baby sitter.


And yes I have kids.

 

[sunlitpath]

Interesting... so I shouldn't be allowed to travel if I have a kid?

I do the best I can to keep my child quiet, but more than likely the first time he is on an airplane he is probably going to cry because it is a new experience, and he will be scared. I will gladly appologize to anyone sitting next to me and will probably try to seat myself in an area of the plane that is as open as possible... but give me a break, kids cry!

If you don't like it, buy a first class ticket where kids aren't allowed! But I have traveled next to many a crying child and I don't let it bother me because it is a fact of life.

Get over yourself...

That is correct. You should not be able to fly if you cannot manage your child's behavior. Most mothers and fathers have the skill to quiet their crying child in a reasonable amount of time. If a parent is at least trying to quiet the child, that goes a long way. Unmanageable children are created at home, not on airplanes. If you can't manage them, please don't bring them; and please don't bring them to the restaurant or movie theater either.

 

[piav8r]

sunlitpath, if my kid starts crying, I don't wait, I am immediately heading somewhere with him, back of the church, out of the restraunt etc, and he's only one year old and can't be expected to know when he should or shouldn't be crying, so blow me...

Working in the airline industry has taught me how sh!tty our FA's are treated and would never expect someone else to take care of or deal with my child. This is also why I have chosen not to travel with him to this point. However, I would hope that someone would have compassion and not think that I am a horrible person if my child is crying, because I will be doing everything I can to comfort him, keep him quiet and avoiding disturbing those around me.

If that is not acceptable to you, I really don't give a F^ck.

I'm pretty sure Delta policy at least for non-rev travel is that children have to be at least 6 years of age to be listed in first class, like I said, haven't gone anywhere, but have played with some listings and I know I can't list for 1st with my son...

 

[sunlitpath]

sunlitpath, if my kid starts crying, I don't wait, I am immediately heading somewhere with him, back of the church, out of the restraunt etc, and he's only one year old and can't be expected to know when he should or shouldn't be crying, so blow me...

Working in the airline industry has taught me how sh!tty our FA's are treated and would never expect someone else to take care of or deal with my child. This is also why I have chosen not to travel with him to this point. However, I would hope that someone would have compassion and not think that I am a horrible person if my child is crying, because I will be doing everything I can to comfort him, keep him quiet and avoiding disturbing those around me.

If that is not acceptable to you, I really don't give a F^ck.

I'm pretty sure Delta policy at least for non-rev travel is that children have to be at least 6 years of age to be listed in first class, like I said, haven't gone anywhere, but have played with some listings and I know I can't list for 1st with my son...

You may be accustomed to other guys "blowing you", but I am not that type. Your interest in having sexual relations with me is flattering yet quite disgusting, but no thanks. Furthermore, if you are trying to quell your big mouth baby's crying, then you are not liable for the excruciating discomfort that is being endured by those around you. Don't rely on the compassion of other travellers to put up with your lazy parenting. So, go fly a kite dimwit.

 

[The_Skids]

The child was not out of line until the flight attendant rudely took the unapproved chair. And out of line in this instance was her crying because she felt unsafe because she did not have the seat. There was nothing that could have been done except for the return of the seat (which was not going to happen).

I am not faulting the flight attendant for doing her job. It is the manner in which she did it and the attitude that she had.

I did not know that the seat was unapproved for aircraft. I thought it was strange that we had no problems with the seat in an aircraft seat in the 4 previous legs.

I keep my child in check and do not ask anyone else to watch, manage, or baby sit her. I do not appreciate the way the situation was handled and felt almost helpless while it was unfolding. I did not want to become a victim of a power tripping F/A. A simple explanation during or after the flight would have sufficed.

I deal with customers day in and day out and know that some people just suck, no question about it. I do not demand any special treatment, being a pilot myself and not being familiar with that particular reg. I had to at least question it.

 

[DieselDragRacer]

Yeah 'cause Delta FA's are never bitches!

That's my great-grandmother you are talking about and those are fighting words!

 

[acaTerry]

FAA approval means nothing because airlines have policies that are more restrictive. Almost every airline has a posted 22" limit. You should know that and you should have bought a bag that fit these parameters if you didn't want trouble.

Actually I was being sarcastic, as mine was the gate agent. We're talking one inch. And it was going to be handed to the ramper at planeside anyways....going to the same hole as the other checked bags. Instead it was $25 bucks, and that's what it was about.
Don't tell me that she was just doing her job. Her job does not entail carrying a tape measure and measuring bags. She just was a b1tch.
I'm pretty big on rules and such, but many times the spirit of the law is more important than the letter of the law. She'd be great at the TSA.

 

[dh82dvr]

The FA was doing their job, however if she did her job properly the seat would have been checked when it first came through the door.

 

[B727FA]

Again, DH28, we don't know WHICH FA did/didn't notice the seat. It was on a 700...the FWD may have missed it; and the AFT FA "caught" it during final-walk through. We still don't know all the facts.

 

[belchfire]

FAA approval means nothing because airlines have policies that are more restrictive. Almost every airline has a posted 22" limit. You should know that and you should have bought a bag that fit these parameters if you didn't want trouble.

Last time I checked Crew Bags didn't have to meet that crap...now if you were out of uniform that's your bad.

 

[belchfire]

The FA was doing their job, however if she did her job properly the seat would have been checked when it first came through the door.

Yeah, no sheite!

 

[DAS at 10/250]

Four year old and twenty minutes of crying? You have bigger problems then your car seat.

 

[great cornholio]

FWIW my airline says that the car seat has to have a "FAA Approved" sticker on it. In fact it is even specific enough to state that the sticker with approved for airplanes must be in RED INK. Thats all of the guidance in my GOM. The FA GOM is more specific and states that the seat must have a hard back regardless of sticker. I haven't seen one in real life yet, but I have no idea what the guidance is on one of those shoulder harness things that slips over the seat back of the aircraft seat.

Was she out of line in the way she handled it...maybe I wasn't there so I dont know. Eitherway if it was on taxi out she had very little time to get the situation fixed so maybe she just was firm to make sure there wouldn't be any wasted time.

 

[B727FA]

I haven't seen one in real life yet, but I have no idea what the guidance is on one of those shoulder harness things that slips over the seat back of the aircraft seat.

The brand name is "Cares." It is FAA approved and requires the sewn on label/sticker, "Approved for aircraft use only." They are approved for use during all phases of flight. In is interesting to note: if the child using the system (up to 44lbs) has a ticketed seat, then they are subject to the FSB at all times; if it's a lap child using an "open" seat then they are only required to use it at the parent's discretion. Go figure.

 

[sunlitpath]

Nazi; Is that a bad thing?