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SkyWest Airlines Ranked As 2005 Number One On-Time

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Truckdriver said:
I'll bet little is the key word here. Are we talking $25 or $50? I got $400 in 2005 from CAL for ontime performance checks. If SKYW beats that then I'll give you one on this issue.

Over $1300 after taxes. BooYahh!!!
 
s.o.sJTB said:
Remember theses are PER QUARTER BONUS'S not yearly.

Yeah...they get these in addition to someone elses hard earned ALPA contract plus 1%. So shut it boyz...you know your just hatin!
 
Let's face it Skywest has maybe 1/3 of their operation at delay prone airports such as ORD and SFO. LAX and SLC do not have problems on a daily basis the way places like EWR do. For example How many times does DAL make you cancel a flight to SLC so they can use your slot time for a mainline arrival? The remaining 2/3 are in parts of the country where you guys fly has a the flow control program which gathers dust in the bottom of a filing cabinet. Run a decent airline with that in mind it is obvious who will be number one. Any small jet carrier with a large Northeast operation will never make the top three, because of a little thing called a metering program.
 
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I just love how all these poeple are making excuses why SW isn't or can't be #1. Who really cares? Same goes for the profit sharing checks. Next you'll all be complaining how the Employee stock purchase plan (that made the down on my house) isn't what we say it is. Get over it - SW is a well run company with employees that actually care about what they are doing (at least they did 5 years ago before I left.) I have friends at AWAC, ASA, & Pinnacle who talk crap about how messed up their company is and they do nothing about it but watch it go down the drain. No wonder SW is picking up new routes all over the place! Hope this makes sense - the coffee hasn't set in yet.

Baja.
 
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So it sounds like it isn't an on-time bonus check it is a profit sharing check that can vary depending on the on-time arrivals. It does sound like you get some good cash out of it so I'll give you the medal in this issue. At XJT last year I got $400 for on-time bonus checks plus a profit sharing check for about 5.2% of my gross wages. SKYW guys probably got more in bonus money but I'll bet I made more W-2 income than you did!

And congrats on the on-time arrival win, I've sat on the taxiway in SLC for over 4 hours waiting for the fog to clear and I know how SFO and ORD can get. You do have to admit however, that if you had any type of major operation in the NYC area, your on-time arrival stats would take a hit because all of those airports just suck. I've sat in the "ballpark" in EWR for over 2 hours waiting for departure due to traffic volume when it was 10SM and clear!
 
Truckdriver said:
I'll bet little is the key word here. Are we talking $25 or $50? I got $400 in 2005 from CAL for ontime performance checks. If SKYW beats that then I'll give you one on this issue.

I got $225 for on time performance and $2844.81 for the MBIP before taxes, total after taxes was $1904.27, alot goes into my 401K. Close your eyes and imagine me giving you the one finger salute.
 
CFIT said:
I got $225 for on time performance and $2844.81 for the MBIP before taxes, total after taxes was $1904.27, alot goes into my 401K. Close your eyes and imagine me giving you the one finger salute.

The MBIP portion of the bonus equals 5.7% of your gross income for Q4-2006. If your Q4 bonus was $2844.81 that means you grossed almost $50,000.00 for Q4. Really?
 
Rogue5 said:
Sure wouldn't be. Unfortunately for SkyWest all A/C in both fleets (EMB and CRJ) are equipped with ACARS or an FMS that transmits a time-stamp.

I'm not sure how the RJ's ACARs are wired, but on the Dornier, we could pop the break early and genereate an out time. The requirements to generate a time were 1) cargo door closed, 2) pax door closed, 3) and parking brake released. However, a good number of the aircraft would generate a time with only the cargo door closed and the parking break released.

Not to mention the trick of changing the aircraft clock to reflect an on-time departure and then simply readjusting it enroute so the ON and IN times will be accurate.

My point being, ACARs can be tricked if one wants to go to the trouble.
 
nimtz said:
Let's face it Skywest has maybe 1/3 of their operation at delay prone airports such as ORD and SFO. LAX and SLC do not have problems on a daily basis the way places like EWR do. For example How many times does DAL make you cancel a flight to SLC so they can use your slot time for a mainline arrival? The remaining 2/3 are in parts of the country where you guys fly has a the flow control program which gathers dust in the bottom of a filing cabinet. Run a decent airline with that in mind it is obvious who will be number one. Any small jet carrier with a large Northeast operation will never make the top three, because of a little thing called a metering program.

So what your saying is that we have an easier job than you, and get compensated for it about the same as you. Plus we get decent bonuses for having it easier than you. No complaints here.
 
CFIT said:
I got $225 for on time performance and $2844.81 for the MBIP before taxes, total after taxes was $1904.27, alot goes into my 401K. Close your eyes and imagine me giving you the one finger salute.

Well I got $400 for on-time performance and $3600 in profit sharing. I also got a dollar for dollar match on 6% of that in my 401K for another $216. After taxes I took home $2500 with about $500 going into my 401K. On top of that, I make more money flying a 50 seat ERJ than you do flying your mighty CR7. Why don't you send me that one finger salute while your looking in the mirror.
 
I got an "ASA-Spirit, Service, Pride" t-shirt a few years ago. It was nice for awhile, but now I use it to soak up oil off the garage floor when the car leaks.

Still never got my Christmas Cookies two years ago.:angryfire
 
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Truckdriver said:
On top of that, I make more money flying a 50 seat ERJ than you do flying your mighty CR7.

Will you still have a job after you loose those 69 erj's?
 
reno said:
The MBIP portion of the bonus equals 5.7% of your gross income for Q4-2006. If your Q4 bonus was $2844.81 that means you grossed almost $50,000.00 for Q4. Really?

Ya, almost.QTD49909.00


I heard on guy got over 4k, before taxes.
 
Skaff said:
So what your saying is that we have an easier job than you, and get compensated for it about the same as you. Plus we get decent bonuses for having it easier than you. No complaints here.
Enjoy that 70 seat pay scale then. At least that mormon koolaid tastes good. Eighteen months huh. BTW the profession thanks you for the hard work...
 
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CFIT said:
Will you still have a job after you loose those 69 erj's?

Most of us will. So what is your point? Are you suggesting that those at XJT should take a paycut to compete with other bottom feeders? Isn't that the problem with this whole industry in the first place?
 
nimtz said:
Enjoy that 70 seat pay scale then. At least that mormon koolaid tastes good. Eighteen months huh. BTW the profession thanks you for the hard work...

Ok, well. I'm really gonna be pissed at myself for getting into it because I always swear I'm not gonna go the low road and whip it out for a "mine is bigger than yours" argument, but this ignorance MUST be countered with facts:

***Edit: Then I thought about it, and ended up actually getting pissed at myself like I said I was. Rant deleted...***

To any I have offended with this, I do offer my humblest apology. I will buy the first round.
 
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CFIT said:
Will you still have a job after you loose those 69 erj's?

We might lose them in the CAL system. You might also see those 69 airplanes show up in one of your hubs being flown by XJT pilots doing some of the flying that you are currently doing. The 145 XR is an airplane that other mainline carriers wouldn't mind having in their arsenal. A 50 seat jet that is dispatchable up to around 1400 miles with a full load is much better than an ER or a CRJ that might be able to get around 1000 miles on a good day with no alternate and usually ends up leaving a few folks behind due to weight issues on most flights. I think DAL, NWA, and UAL would rather have XRJ's in their system than some of the CRJ's and ERJ's that they have now. I know that our guys are meeting with every airline out there trying to find a home for those airplanes if CAL really cuts them out.
 
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nimtz said:
Enjoy that 70 seat pay scale then. At least that mormon koolaid tastes good. Eighteen months huh. BTW the profession thanks you for the hard work...

Since OO is a Utah based company, you sling the Mormon card? What class.
LOL. The profession does not thank you for your lack of professionalism.
An extra $4,500 bonus a year keeps the dogs at bay while we organize for representation.
 
See....now everyone's got it wrong.........In November, SkyWest is going to announce the acquisition of ExpressJet........ALL your airplanes will belong to us ...... Next thing you know, Jerry's Kids will be taking over the world!!! :beer: :pimp:
 
Truckdriver said:
The 145 XR is an airplane that other mainline carriers wouldn't mind having in their arsenal. A 50 seat jet that is dispatchable up to around 1400 miles with a full load ...

1400 miles on a Brasilia jet?

The question is: who would want to do that? Didn't congress recently pass a law banning torture in the US? But I don't want to make you feel bad -- after an hour in the back of a CRJ-200, I am just about ready to hang myself with the oxygen mask.

Point is, we're already flying these things about as far as a human being (or a single lav) can tolerate in one leg. I have to believe that the E-170 and 190 are making the 145XR a dinosaur just as surely as the CRJ-200.
 
propjockey said:
1400 miles on a Brasilia jet?

The question is: who would want to do that? Didn't congress recently pass a law banning torture in the US? But I don't want to make you feel bad -- after an hour in the back of a CRJ-200, I am just about ready to hang myself with the oxygen mask.

Point is, we're already flying these things about as far as a human being (or a single lav) can tolerate in one leg. I have to believe that the E-170 and 190 are making the 145XR a dinosaur just as surely as the CRJ-200.

If it saves a connection, people don't mind sitting in the back of an XR for more than a couple of hours. Almost all flights over 3 hours are long thin routes that save people a connection. The 50 seat XR is a better airplane for some routes than the bigger E jets and the CR7. Eagle stopped doing DFW-BOI because they could only get around a 50-55% load factor on the flight. That is not enough pax to keep up that route on a CR7. Since their ERJ's won't go that far, AMR stopped the flight. Lots of airlines are using the E-170 and CR7 simply because of the range capabilites. When they find the demand on these long thin routes is not enough to make money, they stop the service. If you can get close to the same range with a 50 seat jet, it opens up lots of long thin markets. Routes like PSP, BFD, MTJ, and BOI to IAH are routes that the XR was developed for. Those flight are usually very full of pax that are very happy that they don't have to connect in LAX or SLC. Not to mention the 30 city pairs we do in Mexico and Guatamala that save people a connection in MEX. We can also do all of our LAX-Mexico destination of which couldn't be done on an ERJ or a CRJ. That is exactly why CAL worked with Embraer to develop the XR and that is also why CAL never wanted the E-170's and will probably never get E-170's.
 

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