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RS6

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Rumor control is that two Skyway pilots were at the hotel bar a bit on the late side in CLE. Might have skated had a person at the bar not been a pax the next morning on their flight. Expressed concern after boarding and recognizing the crew, got off and alterted someone at the gate.

Folks depalaned, pilots quizzed, etc...

What's the scoop? Intel has it the pilots terminated. Capt. VERY senior.

Someone on the inside care to clarify.

thanks
 
Hor$e$hit!
I would side with the pilots first.
Now as far as posting this thread. I would advise against using the company name. Just my thought.
 
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RS6 said:
What's the scoop? Intel has it the pilots terminated. Capt. VERY senior.

Someone on the inside care to clarify.

thanks
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IF this "rumor" is true and IF the pilots were terminated, I would hope the matter is NOT discussed on a public forum such as flightinfo.com. Whether or not the incident occurred, it's a issue that should be handled/discussed internally here at Skyway. Additionally, IF terminations occurred, it would and should be considered a confidential Human Resources issue.

Would you want the matter publicly discussed here if you were one of the pilots involved in this unsubstantiated situation and rumored to be terminated?
 
barnyard said:
So did they fire you or not?
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Ah yes, to be presumptious. Given the fact I haven't done a CLE overnight in quite some time would make it very difficult to be involved.

The point of my post was this particular situation has NOT be verified by management or HR as being true. Rumors involving alcohol-related incidents shouldn't be discussed on a public forum. Confidentially-related issues shouldn't be discussed anywhere other than in private between individuals involved. Additionally, pilots are not the only individuals who browse posts here. The media comes here too.

Just be very careful what you or anyone else posts here.
 
Part of being a crew is the ability to excercise good judgement at all times. When on an overnight, exercising good judgement is just as important. When crewmembers choose to expose themselves to these situations all bets are off...
I for one, try to learn from others mistakes. Too bad they didn't.
 
It's like survival of the fittest. The weak and stupid eventually get weeded out. You hate to see anyone lose their job but can we really feel sorry for the dumba$$ pilots who drink past curfew. I feel bad for their families but the pilots get what they deserve whey they can't control their drinking behavior on layovers.
 
Why this lesson has to keep getting re-learned is beyond me. Once again; all together now, DON'T DRINK IN THE HOTEL BAR!
 
SYXDude said:
The point of my post was this particular situation has NOT be verified by management or HR as being true.
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So what exactly does that mean??? MGT and HR can't verify what they have done and they actions they have taken?

It either happened or it didn't.

I'll just ask my friend at the Plain Dealer to make a few calls. Maybe it was in the paper and I missed it.
 
Drinking or eating?????

I did not see anything that said they were "actually" drinking alcohol...alot of Bars also serve food....thought I agree its not good business to been seen by your passengers..the perceptiion is always a negative one...

Of course, if they were have a few < 8 hours before flying....well I need say no more....
 
RS6 said:
So what exactly does that mean??? MGT and HR can't verify what they have done and they actions they have taken?

It either happened or it didn't.

I'll just ask my friend at the Plain Dealer to make a few calls. Maybe it was in the paper and I missed it.
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Why is it so important that you know more about this "rumor"?
 
As freakin bad as this industry is, I am surprised that more people aren't busted for drinking!!!!! When I get home from a trip I can't wait to hit the bottle!(Better then taking a bat to my head) It's the only way to get over all the dumb Fuc$'s you have to deal with on a daily basis!!!! Grab the bottle of Jim Beam and grab the wife's head for a nice blow!!!!! Then I finally feel like life is normal again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
WSurf said:
As freakin bad as this industry is, I am surprised that more people aren't busted for drinking!!!!! When I get home from a trip I can't wait to hit the bottle!(Better then taking a bat to my head) It's the only way to get over all the dumb Fuc$'s you have to deal with on a daily basis!!!! Grab the bottle of Jim Beam and grab the wife's head for a nice blow!!!!! Then I finally feel like life is normal again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know what you mean. She is amazing!
 
SYXDude said:
Why is it so important that you know more about this "rumor"?
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Because I have family that commutes between CLE and MKE for business....

that's why.

Are you in a postion to add any constructive information? If not, I will investigate it further myself, to include a call to the company.

thanks.
 
R6S

Last time I checked SYX is not the only airline that has flights between CLE and MKE. Try flying XJET if you are that concerned. Or you can put them on many other airlines. Delta through ATL or American through DFW.

Props
 
RS6 said:
Because I have family that commutes between CLE and MKE for business....

that's why.

Are you in a postion to add any constructive information? If not, I will investigate it further myself, to include a call to the company.

thanks.
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So, let's say for arguments sake that this crew did drink the night before a flight.
Would tell your family not to fly on this airline because of the actions of ONE crew? Are you saying that the actions of these two people mean the entire airline is suspect?

I wonder if you really are a pilot and not just a reporter fishing around here for dirt.
 
Hey folks, I am fielding questions from family over there. I'm just trying to get the facts straight. The folks I'm getting questions from would be uncomfortable if this is true.

I've told them I'd look into it. Yes, they could easily get on a different RJ. They like the Do-Jets.

If there is nothing to this rumor, and it's completely false, I'll tell them that. Period.

But, since no one is coming forward with anything constructive, and no one 'in the know' has flatly denied that this has happened, I'll take the cautious approach and advise accordingly.

thanks for your insight.
 
No offense but at every airline this happens if you are so worried about your family send them by car, but oh wait thats more dangerous than flying.

Dont make rash judgements about a RUMOR you read on a public forum, it could have been a 15 year old with a creative imagination.

I will fly America West, and Northwest even though they have had "incidents",are you saying you wont.
 
RS6:

Maybe you're thinking of the American Connection incident in MKE last month?

Anyway, if you're going to come on here and ask this question about SkyWay, the responsible thing to do is provide some source for the rumor. You owe that much to the pilot group at SkyWay, the company, the industry, the members here, and--quite frankly--your "concerned family members."

To aid in your pursuit of the truth, here's a link to the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel. If there was even a modicum of truth to this, they would run with it.
http://www.jsonline.com/

Happy hunting!
 
From Holly...

To RS6

After checking with my sources...This rumor is false. The sources are fellow airline flight crew. Granted, I know the majority of the board is going to slam me, but being a Captain for this airline, I can only say, our flight crews are well trained and perform beyond the standards that are required. I can't think of a person in our system ( Pilot or Flight Attendant ) that would, at anytime, put themselves, you or your family in harms way.

I hope this helps to put your feelings at rest..

Holly...

"This is a Professional Board...
<Hinting to: Wsurf and efiscompmon> This is a serious matter and there is no place for immature sarcasm."
 
The bar in the hotel is the only place to get food as well. I've been at the bar within 10 hours of flying just eating a quick dinner and a soda before hitting the sack. As Holly said, just a rumor. Not a shred of fact to it.
 
RS6 said:
I will investigate it further myself, to include a call to the company.
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The company would not answer your questions if you called. Funny thing about HR, they tend to keep confidential any personnel-related issues. But go ahead and call them if you are that concerned - more power to you.

I'll second what Holly said about Skyway crew professionalism. I have yet to be part of a crew that acted in a manner that would be considered questionable during off-duty hours while on the road. And, I'll second IliniPilot - I have frequently flown on NWA and just because ONE 727 crew decided to fly intoxicated doesn't mean ALL their pilots are unprofessional.

I was trying to advise you to BE DISCREET when discussing issues of this nature. Next time, post a message to any Skyway pilot asking for assistance and to have them contact you via PM.
 

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