Skyway Delta Thoughts

[jobear]

Nice thought willfly

I just tell every Captain Beech/Jet that I flew with over the past year thanks for taking the pay cut for the FO's. One less beer for Ken anyway, eww Labatts .
Have a great week all.

Jobear

 

[AirBoard]

That would be interesting, and I am sure management would LOVE to hire new guys at new wages to fly the planes as the more expensive older guys leave....



Bye Bye--General Lee

General, I thinks its awesome you guys have mananged to pull those rates in all this time. With all the crap that's happend and all the CH 11's, to be even making industry compettive rates is good but yours.......Even if they have to pull the trigger and go Ch11 at least you've (hopefully) bankrolled your gains so you can wait out the 'lean' times to come.

 

[General Lee]

Airboard,

I would not brag about it, but yeah, it is nice to still have the wages. But, I would trade it in for some stability. Don't get me wrong, I think we ALL deserve higher wages, but not right now. I think Dalpa is holding the cards and will fold them when everyone agrees to give, and that hopefully will be soon. I am saving my money, though.....


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[ShadowFlight]

Whoa, Vagabond, chill out!

I agree with SYXDude, GoldenEagle, WillFlyFoCookie, and Jobear. I think SYXDude was only reminding newhires to be appreciative of the opportunity. If it wasn't for the sacrifices/hardships the senior pilots made, SYX wouldn't have the current agreement and could quite possibly be out of business. Like Jobear said, we should thank those pilots for their commitment.

From what it sounds like, there are quite a few new hires that i know for sure appreciate their new opportunity to work at SYX more than you."

I'm very grateful for the opportunity to fly for Skyway.

I'm sure if you'd ask SYXDude, he would say the same.

Don't rush to judgements about someone you don't know.

Peace

SF

 

[Justino]

I think we all need to do a raindance to ensure DAL does not file! How about we all meet at Ho Chunk Casinos ? jk

Have a great weekend!

Justino

 

[standaman]

Not trying to start a war but

Not trying to start a war but. November 1st is approaching quite soon for the airbus at Indy. Is this deal really going to go through. Let's assume for once that delta will not be in bankruptcy before Nov 1. Why have I seen no movement yet. Any thoughts from Skyway folks.

 

[Goldeneagle646]

I'm pretty sure the deal will go through. It's sounding like the Dorkjets are in pretty bad shape and will take a while to bring up to the high and mighty skyway standards. Just my .02

 

[Thunderchief]

Slyway's high standards?!?!? Ahhhahhhahahahahhahahaaaa.....

 

[Birddog]

The repetition of "the aircraft were in such bad shape" begs the question of, if they were so bad off that they need another 6 mos the get them ready, how could they have been flying the line up until now?

 

[SMOE]

Its my understanding that the Dorkjets themselves are not in bad shape just the maintenance logbooks. Apparently the record keeping left much to be desired and need to be cleaned up before Skyway accepts the planes.

Latest rumour says flying may start in Nov without a contract in place...

 

[House_X]

Its my understanding that the Dorkjets themselves are not in bad shape just the maintenance logbooks. Apparently the record keeping left much to be desired and need to be cleaned up before Skyway accepts the planes.

Latest rumour says flying may start in Nov without a contract in place...

How many pilots do you guys have ready for Nov. 1st. The word going around over here in "the nasty" is that you guys lost the financing. And I heard you can only staff 10 airplanes. You guys were going balls to the wall for our sim time in May and June, then you stopped. With the closing of DFW for Delta, they can transfer CHQ, ASA amd even SKW to cover our routes.

As far as how good or bad of shape the ships are in...what do you expect...everything is made out of plastic and held on with velcro.

 

[Justino]

I talked to HR at Skyway. from her mouth to my typing:

Skyway is waiting to c what happens with DAL and DALPA. If things work out then they are going to expect the jets online in March. Training dates could range from this Nov through Feb to start. Nothing is set in stone but looks very good. I hope it works out!


Justino

 

[metroplex]

good thing thunderchief knows what is going on at skyway and how they do the mx. hey thunderchief, furloughed yet ?

 

[ShadowFlight]

How many pilots do you guys have ready for Nov. 1st. The word going around over here in "the nasty" is that you guys lost the financing. And I heard you can only staff 10 airplanes. You guys were going balls to the wall for our sim time in May and June, then you stopped. With the closing of DFW for Delta, they can transfer CHQ, ASA amd even SKW to cover our routes.

Again, the issue about IAD sim time not being used as much is directly related to the level of training we received at that facility. From an aircraft perspective, the instructors were top-notch. But, SYX was/is having an issue with the instructors not being well-versed in our policies/procedures. As I've written before, our primary sim is Dallas with Dulles as the secondary.

Financing? There has never been talk about SYX not being able to finance anything. The issue isn't SYX's financing abilities but DL's overall financial situation. SYX was not the initiator in requesting implementation be delayed until early next year. It has been mentioned DL is paying all newhire training costs (post March 1 class) and I'm pretty confident agreements are in place for DL to repay SYX for associated non-training costs in the event the deal is not finalized. Confidentiality agreements may have been signed by those involved with the negotiations which prevent them from discussing the status of the deal. When a deal is finalized, I'm sure information will be publicly posted regarding all the details.

As for the number of crews, SYX was to only get 10 airplanes originally with the balance delivered over the course of 15 months. Why pay for training to immediately staff 30 airplanes when 10 are being delivered in the beginning? There has been some talk DL will only use 20 DoJets in CVG and SYX would get the other 10 for Midwest Connect growth.

As far as how good or bad of shape the ships are in...what do you expect...everything is made out of plastic and held on with velcro.

However true that may be, SYX mechanics have done an outstanding job of maintaining our planes. It's a testament to their abilities to "think outside the box". Having come from an operation where maintenance was questionable, it's great to know we have airplanes that are well-maintained by a group of dedicated mechanics.

Peace

SF

 

[StaySeated]

The mx log book story does seem a little odd. The FAA has huge woodys for cr@p like that and they would have handed out an insane fine if the books were that jacked up. Whatever the case, i hope indy works for the aca guys and delta connection for skyway. With that being said, I found it interesting that DCI is scheduled to have 100 less departures as of Feb05 according to DAL's "big plan". As previously mentioned, ASA has over 200 departures a day in DFW, those are going away and asa is picking up new flying all over the system including CVG. If Midwest were smart, and they are really really not smart, they would drop the whole DCI idea and just buy ten of the dorks outright and use them for midwest connect. Once the DAL BK or concessions are agreed to the fee for departure isn't going to be worth d1ck anyway. Just my opinion, good luck everyone, oh wait, and whoever the he11 is complaining about reserve for one whole month needs to shut the fack up! Poor little baby, just sit in the corner and eat your pb&j with the crust cut off. Ok, I feel better.