Skydive airplane accident

[FN FAL]

FracCapt,

He said he was flying on V3. I don't think there's supposed to be too many jump ops on the airway.

Assumptions can get you killed.

 

[gkrangers]

FracCapt,

He said he was flying on V3. I don't think there's supposed to be too many jump ops on the airway.

V3 passes directly over Dunn.

 

[Bryan D]

Why are you flying directly over an airport with a very active skydiving operation? I can't tell you how many times I was in the door at 15,000' over Dunn spotting the load and had to call a go around because some idiot in a Cessna was flying directly over the DZ...

That's a helluva place for a Cessna to be; over an airport. I had some idiot skydivers falling around me while doing the DME arc at Daytona, had to abort.

 

[gkrangers]

That's a helluva place for a Cessna to be; over an airport. I had some idiot skydivers falling around me while doing the DME arc at Daytona, had to abort.

I was over Dunn, on V3, on an IFR flight plan, punching in and out of clouds (I'd say SCT) and had some jumpers to my east. Not extremely close, but I noticed em...

 

[Bryan D]

Pilot To Be Charged With Manslaughter After Skydiver Hit In Midair


POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT October 5, 2005
UPDATED: 6:08 pm EDT October 5, 2005


The Volusia County state attorney's office plans to charge a pilot with manslaughter for the death of a skydiver in April, according to a Local 6 News report.
Albert "Gus" Wing III of Longwood was finishing his free fall when the plane he jumped from hit him. The skydiver's legs were severed at the knees and he died shortly after landing. The pilot, William Buckman, will be charged with manslaughter and wreckless operation of an aircraft, Local 6 News has learned. Deland is about 40 miles north of Orlando.

http://www.local6.com/news/5062103/detail.html

 

[KigAir]

That was a popular movie around the DZ on rainy days. Fandango and beer.

 

[Steve]

Pilot To Be Charged With Manslaughter After Skydiver Hit In Midair


POSTED: 4:28 pm EDT October 5, 2005
UPDATED: 6:08 pm EDT October 5, 2005


The Volusia County state attorney's office plans to charge a pilot with manslaughter for the death of a skydiver in April, according to a Local 6 News report.
Albert "Gus" Wing III of Longwood was finishing his free fall when the plane he jumped from hit him. The skydiver's legs were severed at the knees and he died shortly after landing. The pilot, William Buckman, will be charged with manslaughter and wreckless operation of an aircraft, Local 6 News has learned. Deland is about 40 miles north of Orlando.

http://www.local6.com/news/5062103/detail.html

Anyone have more details on this accident?

 

[Doug Parker]

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Hey V-stall + FN FAL

Go do the Wt + Bal on a Porter with 10 pax - 10 to 1 says you're gonna be aft loaded and overweight. (not to mention pretty fxxking cramped)


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[V-STALL]

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Hey V-stall + FN FAL

Go do the Wt + Bal on a Porter with 10 pax - 10 to 1 says you're gonna be aft loaded and overweight. (not to mention pretty fxxking cramped)


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I did do the math Mr. NTSB man, and the conclusion is you have no clue what you are talking about. BTW>>> do you know what "ASSUME" stands for?

 

[Doug Parker]

Hey Fucknut,

How much porter time do you have?

I rest on your face...........




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[DiverDriver]

Hey Fricknut,

How much porter time do you have?

I rest on your face...........




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And how much time do you have in an H4 Porter? If you're calling people out on experience you might want to provide some of your own. Help us understand you.



Another problem here could be that the trim was left in landing position. Isn't the first time a jump plane crashed due to this. If this is the cause it wouldn't be the last either. Last one I know of was a C-206 in Jacksonville. Plane breaks ground and then pitches up hard, stalls, rolls left or right, hammers in. I'm just glad no one was killed in this.

 

[Doug Parker]

Full nose up trim is Not unmanageable in an H4.

And how much porter time do you have DiverDriver.




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[DiverDriver]

Full nose up trim is Not unmanageable in an H4.

And how much porter time do you have DiverDriver.




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I asked you first.

 

[erj-145mech]

That was a popular movie around the DZ on rainy days. Fandango and beer.

Ahhh, Mr Hicks, I think that we have a major malfunction here?.....pull the ripcord, pull the handle on your tum tum....

A whole days laundry shot to he!!.....

 

[DiverDriver]

Ahhh, Mr Hicks, I think that we have a major malfunction here?.....pull the ripcord, pull the handle on your tum tum....

A whole days laundry shot to he!!.....

"Hit your reserve! Hit your reserve!"

<thump...thump...thump>

Pull the handle!

 

[avbug]

GO-ON!

NO-GO!


Wow, man. Looks like he missed the mattress. Bummer.

But wait, man! I gotta tell you about my dream! I wanna hang glide off Mt. Everest! But that's not the best part. Naked, man! Hey, Mr. Hicks, you don't look so good!

 

[FN FAL]

That was a popular movie around the DZ on rainy days. Fandango and beer.

Yea...it's a classic! Those guys were so young when that was filmed.

 

[FN FAL]

Hey V-stall + FN FAL

Go do the Wt + Bal on a Porter with 10 pax - 10 to 1 says you're gonna be aft loaded and overweight. (not to mention pretty fxxking cramped)

Hey Doug, I'm not saying the crash can't be wt and balance related...I do 3 wt balances a day on a single engine turboprop and the people that load my plane know that I am pro-active when it comes to how and where they put the freight in the aircraft.

All I was saying was that if it is wt and balance related, we'll have to weight until the authorites way in with their findings.

As far as speculating about what the eye witness said, that's fair game...it was printed in the papers.

Porter a cramped ride? Yea, I sat on the rear seat with three pepole back when I was half as fat as I am now. I think we had 11 in that thing.

 

[avbug]

I've seldom been aboard a jump aircraft on the ride to altitude when it wasn't cramped. Have I ever been aboard one that isn't well within both weight and balance limitations?

Never knowingly.

 

[FracCapt]

That's a helluva place for a Cessna to be; over an airport. I had some idiot skydivers falling around me while doing the DME arc at Daytona, had to abort.

Yea...healluva place for a Cessna to be....over an airport they have no intention of landing at, flying over at an altitude that could interfere with the flow of traffic there, and not even monitoring CTAF....all this over an airport with a very active skydiving operation, which is CHARTED. Do you train your students how to read charts? If so, they should know which airports have skydiving ops at them.

Something funny I've noticed....most of the comments such as yours are always made by high time wonders such as yourself. Maybe once you've been around the patch a few times you'll start to think differently and realize you are not the only person in the sky.....then again, maybe you won't.