Which is my point. Those in glass houses should not throw stones. People here like to talk like they are in a New Jersey pipefitters union. When the rubber meets the road they lay down and submit to management. When I see a pilot group, in mass, grab their sack and shut one down, then I will support the "hard liners". Until then it is all talk. It is easy to tell people thay should refuse a job and go to Home Depot instead of going to Skybus. I will agree when a current airline group is willing to make the same sacrifice and go to Home Depot instead of working a concessionry contract, or flying mainline replacement aircraft for Beech 1900 pay. Until then we are all guilty in our own way of supporting the continued slide. I propose a new mantra for pilots:
I work for less than I am worth and because of that I am in no position to judge others.
I freely admit that I make less than I should and because of that I refuse to judge others. All you have to do is look at the current industry conditions and you will see that most airline pilots are in the same boat. So all you hardliners out there, lead by example. Shut one down and show us that you mean it. Make the word scab mean something, shut it down and dare someone to cross your line. If we are going to talk like bad mfers, lets be bad mfers.
Dam* straight. some of you "kids" talk alot, but why dont YOU go ahead and leave YOUR low paying jobs and show us you mean business. I'll tell you how it goes...
You started as a flight instructor. You had big big plans, be an instructor for 6 months to a year, go to a regional eventhough you knew that you were only going to make 18K a year. But you kept telling your self "It's ok, it wont be to bad, I'll eat sh*t for just a year or two at the most." So you got a crash pad, ate mac and cheese and squeezed every penny to make it work. Then reality kicked in and 2 years at your regional turned into 4 or even 5. Now you begin to bit** and moan about your treatment and salary. You finally hit an upgrade and started to make some money. Although you're still fairly underpaid and management treats you like dirt you still tell your self "It's ok, I'll have my 1000 TPIC soon! and I'll be gone like the wind".
The time comes, you hit your turbine PIC mark and no interview at SWA, FDX, UPS, AirTran, etc. Or even worst, you never upgraded b/c you went to a cheap cargo carrier to fly in the right seat of a widebody. So now you're pissed and bitter b/c you're stuck making 50 to 60k a year (if that), working like a dog and probably commuting. But what to do now? So then Skybus/VA/and Allegiant come along, they try to get a taste of the LCC market. They offer what they think they need to offer, some guys see the opportunity to be homebased, get a A320 type, get turbine 121 PIC or hell, just needs a job. So now here you are pissed b/c you hate the fact that someone is going to be jumping directly into the left seat of an airbus at 65K for the first year.and you're still in the right seat bearly breaking 45K. Of course you're gonna come on here and claim that it's ok for a pilot to get paid 18K a year in the right seat of a 50 seater but not OK to get paid 30K in an airbus. Or that it's ok to get paid 45 to 50K in the left seat of an RJ but not OK to get paid 65K in an airbus.
You all judge to soon, and judge to harshly, just like your "ancestors" criticized all Southwest pilots that took "low paying jobs" and had to pay for their own training. Grow up children.
