Skybus round II ???

[SpauldingSmails]

And how is this Major status?

It'll be another Major FAIL, that's about it.

I can't wait to see these guys capture the highly lucrative Toledo O&D market that everyone has been missing for the past 100 years!

If investors want to get their money's worth, they should just make a giant bonfire out of the 737s and have a giant weenie roast. At least it would entertaining and unpredictable unlike another failed pipe-dream BS carrier.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Surging fuel prices helped bankrupt ultra-discounter Skybus Inc. last year. Weikle founded that Columbus, Ohio-based airline known for its $10 fares.

Who said nothing good ever came out of high gas prices!?

 

[CA1900]

So as I read this; local midwest taxpayers, many of who have lost jobs in manufacturing, are having $3.4 million taken from them at gunpoint to subsidize a politically sexy experiment which has a long history with a zero success rate. The local politicans will enjoy some free travel, model airplanes with some one off paint scheme and get to feel important.

Yup, exactly.

I'll never forget being bombarded with radio ads from Chuck Schumer, the New York senator crowing about "bringing low cost air travel to New York." Yeah, sure -- he did it with my tax money, giving JetBlue an unfair advantage competing with my company at the time!

That's not low-fare air travel, that's government-subsidized air travel.

Many of these small airports went nuts with the "rj revolution" and they think now the answer to a 34 seat a day market is putting a bigger airplane on it.

Yup, exactly. I distinctly remember when one of the only two passengers we had on a Utica-to-NYC flight asked, "When will you guys put a bigger plane on this route?"

Uhhhhhhhh....



I predict a lot of vendors and customers stuck holding the bag when this place goes under. Ask the folks in Allentown who are still waiting for the $1 Million+ owed by Southeast Airlines.

 

[Old School 737]

Old School, they're going to be doing their own flying. Job ads have been quietly circulating for a few weeks now for a V.P. Flight Ops, D.O., and Chief Pilot.

MOCO, it's not "major status", just another threat to the Majors by a low-cost entry undercutting mainline routes. (plus, where are you going to put this thread to where those who need to read about it will find it? I don't read any other sections of FI).

Employees are cheap with the high unemployment rate, lots of pilots and mechanics floating around, too. Many parked Airbus (and other) aircraft with GECAS bleeding money, happy for any semi-stable business plan to pay on the aircraft for a while so leases are cheap. Gate space will be cheap at those smaller, quote "underserved" airports, fuel is cheap for right now, etc, etc.

We'll see if their yields will keep them in business longer than SkyBus was. With the lower fuel prices, they may have better staying power, depending on how well-financed they are.

So they got their operating cert. or are they piggybacking off someone else? What are the pay scales???

 

[hockeypilot44]

It'll be another Major FAIL, that's about it.

I can't wait to see these guys capture the highly lucrative Toledo O&D market that everyone has been missing for the past 100 years!

If investors want to get their money's worth, they should just make a giant bonfire out of the 737s and have a giant weenie roast. At least it would entertaining and unpredictable unlike another failed pipe-dream BS carrier.

You can drive from downtown Toledo to DTW in about 40 minutes. There's no need for two major hubs that close together.

 

[Lear70]

So they got their operating cert. or are they piggybacking off someone else? What are the pay scales???

Unknown and unknown...

I don't have Airbus time or senior management experience so I didn't apply, thus, I don't have direct contact with anyone there.

 

[SpauldingSmails]

Yeah, gotcha... thar be lot's o'sarcasm in me post thar.

 

[Old School 737]

Unknown and unknown...

I don't have Airbus time or senior management experience so I didn't apply, thus, I don't have direct contact with anyone there.

Airbus, I thought it was 737's???

 

[pilotgolfer]

So they got their operating cert. or are they piggybacking off someone else? What are the pay scales???

I looked at the website and I think it said flights would be operated by Miami Air International.

 

[Old School 737]

I looked at the website and I think it said flights would be operated by Miami Air International.

I forgot about them. That makes sense, they have -800's already. Like I said it will last about 2 months then when the "Airline" , JetAmerica, can't pay its bills and quits paying Miami Air then the plug will get pulled. Just another fun and costly experiment.