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Bobkat0001

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We currently operate a King Air 300 and are looking to upgrade to a jet. The only problem is that we operate out of high and short airports(4000ft at 6000ft). Is there anything that can do this in cool weather and traveling about 700 miles. Thanks!
 
jumbo shrimp?...I seriously dont know..

but what are you asking for your KA 300? I was looking to upgrade to that.
 
My book numbers for an Ultra shows 3860' required using flaps 15 at 10 degrees C for 5000 elevation at a 16000# TO weight which should give you more than enough room for fuel and pax. You might have to interpolate a bit for 6000' but it should work. Not sure what you consider cool temps but it looks like over 10 degrees you have to start reducing weight to make it work.
 
We currently operate a King Air 300 and are looking to upgrade to a jet. The only problem is that we operate out of high and short airports(4000ft at 6000ft). Is there anything that can do this in cool weather and traveling about 700 miles. Thanks!

Without knowing a little more about your mission, it's hard to recommend something specific. How many people, for starters? Looking to buy new or used? Any specific price range?

A Citation Sovereign will carry 8 people and a ton of fuel and bags out of a 4000-foot strip, at 5000-foot field elevation, at 77 degrees Fahrenheit, according to Cessna's Sovereign Page. Prices vary, but ~$15 Million sticks out in my head as a ballpark for a new one.
 
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Dont forget the Citation Xls Good short field capability stand up cabin and APU
 
The Excel's a good airplane (it's what I'm flying currently), but it won't meet the OP's mission of a 6000-foot-elevation airport, with a 4000-foot runway. It just doesn't have nearly the short-field performance the Sovereign does. A fully-loaded XLS would need 5,490 feet to take off from a field at an elevation of 5,000 feet at 77 degrees F -- the same conditions for which the Sovereign needs only needs 3,980. Even at freezing temp, the Excel would still need over 4000 feet fully loaded. The only way it could do it would be with very little fuel, very cold temps, and only a couple of people.

I don't have a full set of Sovereign charts, so I can't check the OP's original mission of 6,000 feet specifically, but looking at the 5000-foot numbers on Cessna's site, it should be able to do it as long as it's not right at max takeoff weight. (And if he's only going 700 miles, he can leave off quite a bit of fuel to ensure that.)
 
I believe he said he's "upgrading from a KA 350 to A jet," not that he just "won the Lottery". Used excel @8 mil Vs. new Sovereign @18 Mil and 2 year wait for it to be built. Lightly loaded citation V, ultra or excels will do the trick. If money isnt an option buy a Falcon 900
 

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