Sharing a hotel room?!

[SpiderMan]

Absolutely not.

No kidding, recently I had another pilot, in a postition of authority mind you, ask me if I wanted to share a suite. I paused, unsure if he was serious, and asked "why?". His reply was that the rooms were $400 a piece and it would save money. My response was "It would save who money?".

Basically, while his intentions were fine, I asked why he was so concerned about saving money for pax who wanted to go to a resort city in peak season and keep the airplane there for an extended period. The client owns the airplane, he flies it all over, owns multiple companies etc. After gently putting it in perspective the other guy agreed.

I believe many of us put expenses in "our financial terms", while meaning well, this is completely idiotic. A good majority of the pax we fly are in an entirely different world when it comes to financial numbers. After all, the landing/service fee is $700 at BOS, but is that a concern? Of course not, and if it is you'd better start looking for a job. Corporate aviation is never cheap, and getting more expensive by the day.

Flying an aircraft that costs thousands an hour to operate and then trying to save a couple of hundred on hotel rooms is absolutely pathetic, not to mention the rest implications.

Quoted for the truth and common sense.

 

[tgabster]

What about a female crew member ?

 

[2dumb2drive]

What about a female crew member ?

gigity!

 

[say again]

Hey, we all need to spoon once in a while.

LOL, thats fuc#ed up!!!!

 

[Tgaug6300]

What about a female crew member ?

What do they look like?

 

[2dumb2drive]

What do they look like?

usually not much more attractive then the males, some worse.

 

[CapnVegetto]

Sharing rooms under any circumstance is COMPLETELY unacceptable. Plain and simple.....if these guys can spend millions on a jet, and pay $1500-$2500 an hour to operate it, they can afford to shell out another $120 or so a night for a room. Implying anything else is absolutely, completely, totally absurd.

 

[Flybet3]

Absolutely not.

No kidding, recently I had another pilot, in a postition of authority mind you, ask me if I wanted to share a suite. I paused, unsure if he was serious, and asked "why?". His reply was that the rooms were $400 a piece and it would save money. My response was "It would save who money?".

Basically, while his intentions were fine, I asked why he was so concerned about saving money for pax who wanted to go to a resort city in peak season and keep the airplane there for an extended period. The client owns the airplane, he flies it all over, owns multiple companies etc. After gently putting it in perspective the other guy agreed.

I believe many of us put expenses in "our financial terms", while meaning well, this is completely idiotic. A good majority of the pax we fly are in an entirely different world when it comes to financial numbers. After all, the landing/service fee is $700 at BOS, but is that a concern? Of course not, and if it is you'd better start looking for a job. Corporate aviation is never cheap, and getting more expensive by the day.

Flying an aircraft that costs thousands an hour to operate and then trying to save a couple of hundred on hotel rooms is absolutely pathetic, not to mention the rest implications.

To me there's nothing worse than flying with someone that is a "real team player" or trying to save the company money. HEY! if you have enough money to charter a $2000 or $3000/hr airplane, you can afford $400 for two hotel rooms.

 

[400A]

I do not know if they still do, but Waffle House used to do that also.

 

[Publishers]

One of our aircraft owners was going on a trip to California and said he would take care of putting the crew up in one of his investment properties. I certainly was told in no uncertain terms that if the accomodations were not up to par, the crew would be going to an appropriate hotel. They did not want to share anything.
After all this bitching, I finally heard from them and asked if they had moved to a hotel. It turned out, they had been put up in a villa off the beach fully stocked and big enough they did not even see each other unless they wanted.
On the other hand, I have seen where companies get only one day room for a crew. Anything over 4 to 5 hours on the ground, you could get a room. As much as rest, it was to get you out of the FBO and in more comfortable surroundings.

 

[Fernando]

I do that and it sucks! Luckily, most trips we return the same day, it only happens maybe once a month, or two, but it sucks, like someone said here, i dont wanna be around someone 24 hrs a day! the captain doesnt seem to care, and when he goes out to get something always wants me to go along, but i usually try to keep my distance, besides he snoores, watch Tv til late, and cant sleep with the lights out! so there i am, trying to sleep with the lights on his side of the room on!

id like to have my own room, and just seeing him untile next day for the ride to the airport, it really gets on my nerves

 

[Freight Dog]

Professional standards ladies and gents... I don't care if CEO and the VP share a room - they have the option of passing out in the back of the plane if they've had a bad night of sleep. Unfortunately, I don't have the same option.

I don't want to know the other pilot's sleeping patterns - he could snore, he could beat his meat, he could destroy the toilet thereby rendering the entire bathroom uninhabitable for a lot longer than necessary. The list goes on...

I'll look out for the best interests of the owner - I don't need Four Seasons, but you ain't putting me in Motel 6 either, or in a room with another pilot.

 

[hammer2]

Let me think about this. Um, no.

You had to think?

 

[acat]

At my job we are back almost every night but typically sit at crap hole airports all day long waiting on passengers who are typically late. Once we were scheduled to sit for something like 10 hours in an fbo that didn't hardly even have furniture in it. I found day rooms for 25 bucks a piece at a super 8 and asked my boss if I could get them and he said if we really found it to be necessary we could share one. I decided no way and spent the day sitting at the airport thinking about how much I hated my job...
To me it seems that some corporate pilots get less respect than a cabby (at least they get tipped)!

 

[rjpilot7667]

you argument should be that you are performing a safety sensitive function for the company and need your rest. Pilots spend their lives on the road. You need a little bit of privacy. The CEO is not. It is in his best interest to make sure that you are well prepared for your duties. Contact the NBAA for industry standards.

 

[southernpilot]

acat,
That isn't a job you have. That is hell. Almost as bad as the breath of the guy I have to work with. Start looking for something else now. You need to enjoy what you are doing. Hell man, you getting PAID to fly. I just got my hands on the 2005 NBAA Membership Directory so I can help you. PM me.