Shares Pilots taking overtime with 100 on the street

[tdwnds1]

Kind of had a feeling that OT wasnt exactly "voluntary".

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[J D]

Disregard....

 

[rigger]

Kind of had a feeling that OT wasnt exactly "voluntary".

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SORRY.....there is some forced OT like at the end of a trip and need a flight etc. But what we are talking about is REAL FOLKS CALLING SCHEDULING AND SAYING I"LL TAKE A COUPLE OF DAYS!!!!

Folks need to stop making themselves feel better by saying things like the above.....if it's forced then take it and get some darn work rules to stop it from happening....It makes no difference if Cessna forced the OT or not, TRUE management is saying sorry we need XX amount of pilots returned but due to the above mentioned idiots management is not forced to do the RIGHT thing.....

 

[blueridge71]

Stop talking sense, Spaceballs. This is flightinfo.

I've heard the arguements against taking OT at several companies and never seen it make one shred of difference as to who gets furloughed and who doesn't. If one person doesn't volunteer, someone who wants to go home gets extended. The trip will be covered one way or another.

I'll bet that most of the people complaining on this thread aren't even CS pilots. I havn't heard any of this talk on the line.

FWIW I havnt had a day of OT, voluntary or otherwise, in a long, long time. And anyone who tries to slit my tires, just know that survivors will be prosecuted.

 

[Freedom]

Hey Buddy...

You forgot your favorite warm up line....

"Me Me Meeee......"

That is no way to acquire the leverage of a group to better your situation.


Freedom is NOT Free

Stop talking sense, Spaceballs. This is flightinfo.

I've heard the arguements against taking OT at several companies and never seen it make one shred of difference as to who gets furloughed and who doesn't. If one person doesn't volunteer, someone who wants to go home gets extended. The trip will be covered one way or another.

I'll bet that most of the people complaining on this thread aren't even CS pilots. I havn't heard any of this talk on the line.

FWIW I havnt had a day of OT, voluntary or otherwise, in a long, long time. And anyone who tries to slit my tires, just know that survivors will be prosecuted.

 

[XTW]

Keep in mind that these last furloughs and downgrades came directly from Cessna. CitationShares management had no say in the matter.

Source?

 

[blueridge71]

Freedom, CS is not a union shop. Even in a union shop I have never seen rejecting OT defer any furloughs or bring any pilots back.

As to "me, me, me" you must have missed the part where I said that I havn't had any OT at all - voluntary or forced - in a very long time. As far as I can tell from talking to other pilots, there is no OT to be had except in the rare case when you are extended involuntarily.

 

[rigger]

Freedom, CS is not a union shop. Even in a union shop I have never seen rejecting OT defer any furloughs or bring any pilots back.

As to "me, me, me" you must have missed the part where I said that I havn't had any OT at all - voluntary or forced - in a very long time. As far as I can tell from talking to other pilots, there is no OT to be had except in the rare case when you are extended involuntarily.

You need to talk to more pilot's.....OT is happening forced and voluntary....so sad, but that's what Mgmt wants.....folks that really don't know for sure, that's another reason a Union would/could help Shares guys......at least you and others would know for sure....if you want the names they were posted on the IBT site......but I think the mods just removed them

 

[Krapflier]

keep in mind that these last furloughs and downgrades came directly from cessna. Citationshares management had no say in the matter. Yes, we will most likely get "forced" overtime, but we won't have a choice in the matter. Those of us that are "forced" to do overtime are not the bad guys.

total bs....

 

[blueridge71]

You need to talk to more pilot's.....OT is happening forced and voluntary....so sad, but that's what Mgmt wants.....folks that really don't know for sure, that's another reason a Union would/could help Shares guys......at least you and others would know for sure....if you want the names they were posted on the IBT site......but I think the mods just removed them

Even if you're correct, it just proves my point. If there is a company out there that doesn't allow some form of forced overtime, they are probably the only one.

The company will crew its flights. If someone doesn't volunteer, then someone who wants/needs to go home gets forced. How does that help our furloughed guys?

The CS union talk is all but dead.