Sexual Harassment

[TurboS7]

Aviation needs to be totally excempt from any sexual harrassement issues, sexual harrassement is part of aviation. Like it or leave it.

 

[TurboS7]

Now I have to concede that discretion is the better part of valor, if I said that to my wife she would kick me out of the house. Get a grip guys.

 

[English]

Aviation needs to be totally excempt from any sexual harrassement issues, sexual harrassement is part of aviation. Like it or leave it.

True.

I'm tired of my copilots complaining to the boss about it all the time.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I carry around a SEXUAL HARASSMENT CONSENT FORM in my flight bag. Everytime I begin a trip with a new female coworker, I have her fill one of these out and then there is no confusion on what is acceptable behavior.

 

[Ailerongirl]

I carry around a SEXUAL HARASSMENT CONSENT FORM in my flight bag. Everytime I begin a trip with a new female coworker, I have her fill one of these out and then there is no confusion on what is acceptable behavior.

I think I might have flown with you!

 

[TurboS7]

Till you go sit in the back on the JS with the FA's. Then they need to be giving you a form. It just proves the point that it has nothing to do about the harrassement, it is all about the money.

 

[FN FAL]

Till you go sit in the back on the JS with the FA's. Then they need to be giving you a form. It just proves the point that it has nothing to do about the harrassement, it is all about the money.

Good point. I know a lot of people have something to say regarding civil trials, but without civil court, people would be shooting out their "civil" differences in the street.

People do have rights and they do have a right to work in an environemnt free from harassment.

Not too long ago, there was a guy and a girl throwing boxes around in the back of my plane and the guy was a new hire. He was severely crossing the boundaries of good taste with what he was saying and you could tell the girl was feeling a little uneasy.

There's no place for this type of thing in the workplace. It made her feel bad, it made me feel bad and now that I think about it...he's gone.

Furthermore, where is management? I figure if people are working slow enough to be able to hold a conversation, they ain't being pushed to full potential.

 

[Flylo]

You think you've got it rough!!

A friend of mine works in the Toyota assembly factory outside Lexington, Kentucky. I don't remember how may thousand people are employed there.... 5 or 6 maybe. He told me 3 or 4 years ago that, among other things in their written company policy; if you stare at a woman for more than 8 seconds, it is considered sexual harassment, a firing offense. Of course, she'd have to make a formal complaint about the offense but he said it had been done to more than one individual just to cause them trouble or for revenge of some kind.

It is also a firing offense if you distribute a copy of that written policy outside the gates of the Toyota factory; they don't want anybody to know just how weird it is in there. He absolutely despises working there because of the oppressive atmosphere and I can tell you that job has turned him from a fun loving character who enjoyed life, into a glum, depressed misanthrope. Of course, it's the money that keeps him there.

The other side of the coin is that if Toyota didn't have, and enforce, some kind of a policy like that, every time someone sued for sexual harassment they would include Toyota in the suit. They probably do anyway.

What a world.

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[A1FlyBoy]

....and hanging that Snap-ON-Tool calendar anywhere in the cockpit nowdays is out of the question...

 

[FN FAL]

A friend of mine works in the Toyota assembly factory outside Lexington, Kentucky. ...their written company policy; if you stare at a woman for more than 8 seconds, it is considered sexual harassment, a firing offense.

I have worked in manufacturing...believe me, they were just trying improve the female worker's self esteem when they wrote that.

 

[Flylo]

I have worked in manufacturing...believe me, they were just trying improve the female worker's self esteem when they wrote that.

ROF

You're 100% right. I met him one time outside the gate and had to stare a whole lot longer than 8 seconds just to make a positive ID on most of 'em as actual members of the opposite sex. In some cases I'm still not sure.

That was something else he said; most of the real trouble makers, the ones that were forever threatening somebody with a sexual harassment action, were the ones that nobody would sexually harass on a bet. Wishful thinkers I guess.

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[English]

That was something else he said; most of the real trouble makers, the ones that were forever threatening somebody with a sexual harassment action, were the ones that nobody would sexually harass on a bet. Wishful thinkers I guess.

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OMG that is so true!

 

[FN FAL]

That was something else he said; most of the real trouble makers, the ones that were forever threatening somebody with a sexual harassment action, were the ones that nobody would sexually harass on a bet. Wishful thinkers I guess.

I was on the ramp one day talking to one of my co-workers while his plane was getting loaded with freight. A female rampie walks by about 30 yards away and he gets that 1,000 yard stare and the drool dribbling. Finally, he goes..."did ya see dat, did ya see dat!" And he starts getting all giggity giggity like a penthouse model had just walked by.

I wanted to give him a friendly ridge hand accross the esophagus, to pull him out of his stupor, but I just shook my head.

Later, when it was time for my plane to be loaded, I saunter over and assumed the postion and that chick walks up to my plane.

Back in the old gym days, when ladies used to wear danskins creeping up the crack of their asses and boobs hanging out like, "Here...have one!", I developed an observational technique that kept me out of trouble...look, but don't let them see you look. And it works...because I always got asked by the babes to spot for them when they benched!

But anyway, that ramp chick walks up and starts grabbing boxes...Holy crap! It was all I could do to not go, "Hey Willlllllllllbbuurrr, what's with the long face?"

Gawd, what is it with guys that have to stop all bodily functions and stand there quivering and staring like moron!

 

[TurboS7]

He better stay away from Bucharest, I have never seen so many beautiful women in one place in the world in all my life. You come back her and all the girls look like 2's and 3's.

 

[xdrvr]

True story, corporate chick pilot based out of SDL if anyone is local you probably know who I'm talking about, but she hired on a few years ago flying corp started sleeping with the DO and turned around later and filed sexual harrassment charges and won !! Total rug sucker and incomp as heck! Go figure!

 

[lawfly]

It's Lexis Nexis, not Lexus (the car) Nexus. But I admit I double-checked the invoice I have from them on my desk before posting this.
No comment on the main topic.

 

[FN FAL]

True story, corporate chick pilot based out of SDL if anyone is local you probably know who I'm talking about...

For those who CAN correlate without having a pretty airplane in the story...at one place I worked at, a married guy and a pretty divorcee were hooking up on company time in a storage room. Someone walked in on them and caught them in the act. The company didn't take any chances, the company fired both of them on the spot. The union couldn't do anything for them. The woman claimed sexual harassment in attempt to save her job and possibly go for the gold...it didn't work.

[aviation reference]James River Paper Co. did have a pretty big corporate flight department at the time.[/aviation reference]