Sent TSA resume ************************* response ?

[Fblowjets]

not a whipasaw huh? ok you really are joking, you had me going for a second that you actually made the biggest mistake in your career. whoa close one.

 

[johndt]

This is very true....a friend of my dad's is a check airman for american airlines and he says ...

You're in big trouble young man. Even your dad's good friends are gonna have trouble getting you a job at a reputable airline now. You're obviously ignorant of the way this industry works, and I'm truthfully sorry that you're about to get such a harsh education, but that's the way it works, kid.

I'm glad you guys don't want to get paid block or better over there, b/c that's the way you'll be flying for a loong time.

 

[redbook]

This is very true....a friend of my dad's is a check airman for american airlines and he says that now days it is a non issue to the majors...get pic 121 as fast as you can and get out...they believe all this regional bickering is rediculous...experience is what matter to the majors.

You will be the first to point out you are not a scab; You are correct. But what you posted above is classic. You joined an alter ego whipsaw; you will find out in due time that this is a very small industry. Hard to keep secrets; even though I am sure you will try and bury this in your past, it will keep coming back to haunt you.

If you only knew how many tsa guys are at AMR. And yes, they know about g0jet.

 

[redbook]

GJ is not a whipsaw.....

So sayeth the whipsaw alter ego pilot. Sorry that doesn't make it so.


ALPA President to Trans States Management: We'll Cooperate, but We're Not Backing Down
ST LOUIS, MO - The head of the union that represents pilots at St. Louis-based Trans States Airlines today told pilots at a rally at Lambert Airport that the union is taking a carrot-and-stick approach to resolving labor issues at the airline.
"I have come here today to personally issue a public challenge to your management to alter the course that they have taken in dealing with their pilots," said Capt. Duane Woerth, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, International, in remarks prepared for the rally.
"I have come to challenge them to work cooperatively with our union to help build this airline for the future. And I have come to offer to help promote new business opportunities for this airline and new job opportunities for its ALPA pilots. I am convinced that, together, we can build Trans States into a strong, solid company for decades to come," Woerth said.
"I have also come here to draw public attention to the fact that, sadly, our efforts to discuss the issues before us in cooperation with the company have, to date, met with little to no success. Using only the most tenuous thread of justification, Trans States management has sought to create an alter-ego carrier that they intend to staff with pilots not sheltered by an ALPA-bargained contract," he said.
"In response to this tactic, we have been forced to file a grievance concerning this alter-ego carrier, because management has made it clear that ************************* exists solely to evade ALPA and the TSA-ALPA agreement. The clearest proof? Management's premature and illegal attempt to install a separate union before ************************* employs any pilots or begins operations. While management's public claim that a contractual restriction makes it impossible to extend the ALPA contract to larger jets, I assure you that we can readily overcome this very common obstacle," Woerth said.
"The management at Trans States has concluded that they have some strong opportunities for growth of their company-in new sectors, in new markets, on new routes, and flying for new carriers. I applaud that vision. I salute it. That being said, I insist that the Air Line Pilots Association and the pilots we represent play our legitimate role in tangibly contributing to that growth. There is absolutely no justifiable reason to create an alter-ego carrier or a carrier that is 'walled off' from our pilots, whose sacrifices and hard work have built this company. ************************* may indeed be a viable operation moving forward-but only with our pilots in those cockpits," he said.
"Unfortunately, time is running out, because the management team at TSA has decided to do more than just stop talking to our pilots and their representatives. They have made the unfortunate - and potentially devastating - decision to crack down on our union and our union representatives here in St. Louis and elsewhere," he said.
"Standing right here with me today are two good ALPA representatives-officers who put their necks on the line for their brothers and sisters-who have recently been unjustifiably fired by TSA. The Executive Council of our International union was so outraged by these maneuvers that it recently voted to make these fired pilots financially whole until they are rightfully returned to their cockpits. That's what being union is all about. I will not tolerate attacks on, or interference with, our union representatives-pilots or employees-simply because they are members or staff of this union," Woerth said.
"The climate here at Trans States Airlines does not need to be poisoned. We can start fresh today - if management accepts our offered hand and alters their course of action. If they make that change, we can build a better airline and a better environment for the future," he said.

 

[h25b]

So sayeth the whipsaw alter ego pilot. Sorry that doesn't make it so.


ALPA President to Trans States Management: We'll Cooperate, but We're Not Backing Down
ST LOUIS, MO - The head of the union that represents pilots at St. Louis-based Trans States Airlines today told pilots at a rally at Lambert Airport that the union is taking a carrot-and-stick approach to resolving labor issues at the airline.
"I have come here today to personally issue a public challenge to your management to alter the course that they have taken in dealing with their pilots," said Capt. Duane Woerth, president of the Air Line Pilots Association, International, in remarks prepared for the rally.
"I have come to challenge them to work cooperatively with our union to help build this airline for the future. And I have come to offer to help promote new business opportunities for this airline and new job opportunities for its ALPA pilots. I am convinced that, together, we can build Trans States into a strong, solid company for decades to come," Woerth said.
"I have also come here to draw public attention to the fact that, sadly, our efforts to discuss the issues before us in cooperation with the company have, to date, met with little to no success. Using only the most tenuous thread of justification, Trans States management has sought to create an alter-ego carrier that they intend to staff with pilots not sheltered by an ALPA-bargained contract," he said.
"In response to this tactic, we have been forced to file a grievance concerning this alter-ego carrier, because management has made it clear that ************************* exists solely to evade ALPA and the TSA-ALPA agreement. The clearest proof? Management's premature and illegal attempt to install a separate union before ************************* employs any pilots or begins operations. While management's public claim that a contractual restriction makes it impossible to extend the ALPA contract to larger jets, I assure you that we can readily overcome this very common obstacle," Woerth said.
"The management at Trans States has concluded that they have some strong opportunities for growth of their company-in new sectors, in new markets, on new routes, and flying for new carriers. I applaud that vision. I salute it. That being said, I insist that the Air Line Pilots Association and the pilots we represent play our legitimate role in tangibly contributing to that growth. There is absolutely no justifiable reason to create an alter-ego carrier or a carrier that is 'walled off' from our pilots, whose sacrifices and hard work have built this company. ************************* may indeed be a viable operation moving forward-but only with our pilots in those cockpits," he said.
"Unfortunately, time is running out, because the management team at TSA has decided to do more than just stop talking to our pilots and their representatives. They have made the unfortunate - and potentially devastating - decision to crack down on our union and our union representatives here in St. Louis and elsewhere," he said.
"Standing right here with me today are two good ALPA representatives-officers who put their necks on the line for their brothers and sisters-who have recently been unjustifiably fired by TSA. The Executive Council of our International union was so outraged by these maneuvers that it recently voted to make these fired pilots financially whole until they are rightfully returned to their cockpits. That's what being union is all about. I will not tolerate attacks on, or interference with, our union representatives-pilots or employees-simply because they are members or staff of this union," Woerth said.
"The climate here at Trans States Airlines does not need to be poisoned. We can start fresh today - if management accepts our offered hand and alters their course of action. If they make that change, we can build a better airline and a better environment for the future," he said.

Great, Woerth says so so it must be true... Isn't this the second time you've posted that article ? Getting sorta desperate aren't you ? Do you carry a copy around in your wallet ? Woerth is about as effective is the Captain of the Titanic.

 

[h25b]

You're in big trouble young man. Even your dad's good friends are gonna have trouble getting you a job at a reputable airline now. You're obviously ignorant of the way this industry works, and I'm truthfully sorry that you're about to get such a harsh education, but that's the way it works, kid.

I'm glad you guys don't want to get paid block or better over there, b/c that's the way you'll be flying for a loong time.

More career forethought from a RJ F.O.

 

[redbook]

Great, Woerth says so so it must be true... Isn't this the second time you've posted that article ? Getting sorta desperate aren't you ? Do you carry a copy around in your wallet ? Woerth is about as effective is the Captain of the Titanic.

I have posted it many times and will continue to do so. It simply reflects the reality that everyone knows, a holding company created to whipsaw tsa.

I just post it to clear up lies by g0jet scumbags and those who defend them.

 

[redbook]

More career forethought from a RJ F.O.

I guess "career forethought" (whatever that means, you learned scholar) can only come from an alter ego scumbag captain!

I would take career advice from a 12 year old flying a kite than from a scab flying a 747.

The airplane you fly and your position doesn't give you credibility; your arguments are idiotic.

 

[FlyHIToo]

I have posted it many times and will continue to do so. It simply reflects the reality that everyone knows, a holding company created to whipsaw tsa.

I just post it to clear up lies by g0jet scumbags and those who defend them.

That letter is from the spring of 2005 over a year ago. ALPA has never spoke a word about GJ since that letter. The know that GJ and TSA are no more the same than AA and AE or DAL and ComAIR.


The guy that started this thread is a FLAMEBAITER and you all took the BAIT. GJ will not even interview people with that low of multi time. They have no need to. That is fact.

 

[tomcash]

That letter is from the spring of 2005 over a year ago. ALPA has never spoke a word about GJ since that letter. The know that GJ and TSA are no more the same than AA and AE or DAL and ComAIR.


The guy that started this thread is a FLAMEBAITER and you all took the BAIT. GJ will not even interview people with that low of multi time. They have no need to. That is fact.

Go FlyHi and F yourself

 

[Turkey Shoot]

GJ will not even interview people with that low of multi time. They have no need to. That is fact.

Time to get personal. You are a LIAR.

I'd love to be there to see the look on your face you fkucers get scoped in. It's only a matter of time before it happens. Just because you scumbags voted in a union doesn't mean squat. If the company makes one senority list, guess what??? I know a staple won't happen but most of you turds will sit a long time on reserve and have to endure a hostile work enviroment. If you don't think it will happen, you've had to much of Hula's koolaid. If you come between him and a buck, all those empty promises will become just that.


BTW, why in the heck do you guys walk around the training center like your so proud but turn your badges around in ORD and IAD?

 

[flyer172r]

BTW, why in the heck do you guys walk around the training center like your so proud but turn your badges around in ORD and IAD?

Because in ORD and IAD the company managers aren't around to protect them when they whine about all the TSA pilots wearing their anti-GJ tags.

 

[punkpilot48]

Hey even at flight saftey you see their badges on backwards!

 

[Mike man]

They are not doing that....they tell potential hires that we are not hiring at trans states...would you be interested in GJ. If not not a problem, just giving opportunities for a to interview for a job if they are interested.

So they must forward the resumes to other companies that are hiring too...right. If not they must be the same, how can they not be.

 

[flyer172r]

So when someone applies at Skywest, if they're not hiring do they send the application to ASA instead?

 

[airjackson]

A buddy of mine was trying to get on at TSA recently, only to find out they had suspended hiring for a while. He was offered a chance to interview at go-jets. Unfamiliar with the situation, he asked for my advice since this was his first foray into the regional world. He graciously declined the interview, continued sending his resume out and now has three interviews within a months time and one firm job offer. Fellas, there are alternatives out there. Good ones.


As to why you can't type the word *************************s on this forum, you'll have to ask the sackless chump who runs it.

 

[rjacobs]

HA, United hates hojet because their performance sucks. When United signed on with TSA they thought they were getting TSA and now their pissed. I dont blame em. Also heard a new one that a hojet crew was getting faa line checked from DEN to STL and they started their descent over CENTRAL KANSAS because they didnt think they'de be able to decend quick enough. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I got a descent 15 miles from qball at 29k feet to cross at 11k and almost made it with the brakes out and about 5 knots to spare to redline. I guess those new jets dont descend as well as our old nasty dirty ones.

 

[aewanabe]

You accepted a crossing clearance 15 miles out with 14K to lose? And you're proud of this? Go ride in the jumpseat on a real jet sometime... few airplanes come down as well as the 145.

 

[jersey]

scabs

 

[h25b]

HA, United hates hojet because their performance sucks. When United signed on with TSA they thought they were getting TSA and now their pissed.

They knew full well they were going to have a separate airline... They had to because of the AA scope clause.