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LETTER TO PBGC ASKS AGENCY TO CONSIDER RESTORING

US AIRWAYS EMPLOYEE PENSION PROGRAM



WASHINGTON, D.C. - Last night, United States Senator Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), along with a bipartisan group of his colleagues, sent a letter to the head of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation (PBGC), asking him to explore the possibility of restoring the terminated employee pension programs at U.S. Airways, in light of the airline’s substantially improved financial circumstances. The employee pension plans, which were underfunded by $4.8 billion at the time of their termination, have since been assumed by the PBGC.

By law, PBGC has the authority to take such action if a company’s financial situation is improved. Earlier this month, US Airways offered to purchase the larger Delta Airlines for some $10.2 billion, including $5 billion in cash.

"If US Airways now clearly has ability to generate considerable cash and has easy access to credit markets, the company’s ability to restore its terminated pension plans must be fully explored. This is especially true in light of the fact that PBGC regulations would permit the restored plans to be funded over a period of up to 30 years, which is an even longer funding period than airlines are afforded under the Pension Protection Act of 2006," the lawmakers wrote.

"The Federal government shouldn’t allow a company that dumped its pension responsibilities buy another," said Lautenberg. "US Airways should take care of its employees before taking over another airline."

Senators Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), and Patty Murray (D-WA) also joined Lautenberg in signing the letter.
 
I'm stunned! Politicians trying to do the right thing? Where's the catch? :rolleyes: TC
 
I'm stunned! Politicians trying to do the right thing? Where's the catch? :rolleyes: TC


It´s not that complicated 717 driver. You get the big business, screw labor, union hating, Republicans out of power and some good things might come our way. The timing is not a coincidence and I guarantee if the republicans still controlled the house and senate then this would not be proposed, because it couldn´t pass... Bi-partisan support means some R´s will score some points by acting like they care for the little guy....
 
It´s not that complicated 717 driver. You get the big business, screw labor, union hating, Republicans out of power and some good things might come our way. The timing is not a coincidence and I guarantee if the republicans still controlled the house and senate then this would not be proposed, because it couldn´t pass... Bi-partisan support means some R´s will score some points by acting like they care for the little guy....
You aren't really suffering from the belief that the Cape Cod Orca, Teddy Kennedy, and her thighness, Hillary Clinton and the rest of those communist pukes on the other side of the aisle give a rat's a$$ about the little guy are you? They care about themselves and preserving their lofty positions. Nothing More.
 
"The Federal government shouldn’t allow a company that dumped its pension responsibilities buy another," said Lautenberg. "US Airways should take care of its employees before taking over another airline."

Senators Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), and Patty Murray (D-WA) also joined Lautenberg in signing the letter.

Beautiful.:)
 
You aren't really suffering from the belief that the Cape Cod Orca, Teddy Kennedy, and her thighness, Hillary Clinton and the rest of those communist pukes on the other side of the aisle give a rat's a$$ about the little guy are you? They care about themselves and preserving their lofty positions. Nothing More.

Mr XRMEFLYER, just because you have a different political view in a democracy does not make one a communist. Grow up and respect the political system we have. It is what makes this country so great. Oh by the way I served in the military at the end of the cold war, and Senator Kennedy and Senator Clinton aren't communist, just Americans with their own Ideas on how to make our country better. Some may differ on their political views, but they are still Americans, serving our country!
 
You aren't really suffering from the belief that the Cape Cod Orca, Teddy Kennedy, and her thighness, Hillary Clinton and the rest of those communist pukes on the other side of the aisle give a rat's a$$ about the little guy are you? They care about themselves and preserving their lofty positions.

Don't they all care only about themselves? How good do you feel about your tax dollars still going to build the 250 million dollar "Bridge to Nowhere" that even the locals don't want/need? I think it was a "R" who made that happen.

And...are they really Communists? I have met people who defected from formerly communist countries. I don't think they would describe any politician in this country as a "Communist."

OK...so you disagree with thier political positions...but "Communists"? C'mon...

Tejas
 
Sorry if already posted...

LETTER TO PBGC ASKS AGENCY TO CONSIDER RESTORING

US AIRWAYS EMPLOYEE PENSION PROGRAM



WASHINGTON, D.C. - Last night, United States Senator Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ), along with a bipartisan group of his colleagues, sent a letter to the head of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation (PBGC), asking him to explore the possibility of restoring the terminated employee pension programs at U.S. Airways, in light of the airline’s substantially improved financial circumstances. The employee pension plans, which were underfunded by $4.8 billion at the time of their termination, have since been assumed by the PBGC.

By law, PBGC has the authority to take such action if a company’s financial situation is improved. Earlier this month, US Airways offered to purchase the larger Delta Airlines for some $10.2 billion, including $5 billion in cash.

"If US Airways now clearly has ability to generate considerable cash and has easy access to credit markets, the company’s ability to restore its terminated pension plans must be fully explored. This is especially true in light of the fact that PBGC regulations would permit the restored plans to be funded over a period of up to 30 years, which is an even longer funding period than airlines are afforded under the Pension Protection Act of 2006," the lawmakers wrote.

"The Federal government shouldn’t allow a company that dumped its pension responsibilities buy another," said Lautenberg. "US Airways should take care of its employees before taking over another airline."

Senators Johnny Isakson (R-GA), Maria Cantwell (D-WA), Saxby Chambliss (R-GA), and Patty Murray (D-WA) also joined Lautenberg in signing the letter.

Where did you get this information from, I can't find it anywhere.. Thanks
 
“If US Airways now clearly has ability to generate considerable cash and has easy access to credit markets, the company’s ability to restore its terminated pension plans must be fully explored."

Hey Doogie...uh-oh!...huh?

Looks like that Capital Hill trip was even worse than it looked like.
 
Hey Doogie...uh-oh!...huh?

Looks like that Capital Hill trip was even worse than it looked like.
ROFLMAO!!!

While I don't think anything will come of this, I still think it's pretty funny.

I don't see the PBGC or any other government agency being able to FORCE UAir to take out a high interest loan just to re-fund the pension plan.

Getting a loan to try to make money is quite a different thing than getting a loan to pay another debt, otherwise known as "Robbing Peter to pay Paul".

Still, it was worth a nice smiley moment... ;)
 
I'm sorry, America West had a pension fund when we acquired USAirways? And now some senators want us to reinstate it? Wait, what?... Oh... nevermind.
 
JT8D;1239392 Looks like that Capital Hill trip was even worse than it looked like.[/quote said:
You should have seen it first hand. In person the tongue lashing he got over wanting to spend billions on an acquisition no one but him and his financier cronies want as opposed to taking care of his own employees first was great to watch.

He may have opened his own pandoras box by flaunting those billions around.
 
I'm sorry, America West had a pension fund when we acquired USAirways? And now some senators want us to reinstate it? Wait, what?... Oh... nevermind.

AAA employees, who make up the majority of LCC employees had their pensions terminated because the company claimed they couldn't afford it. Now the new entity, LCC, who assumed all the AAA obligations is making 100s of millions in profit and has easy access to the captal markets, so it is only right that they should honor the obligations of their employees and not dump it on the tax payers.
 
Mr XRMEFLYER, just because you have a different political view in a democracy does not make one a communist. Grow up and respect the political system we have. It is what makes this country so great. Oh by the way I served in the military at the end of the cold war, and Senator Kennedy and Senator Clinton aren't communist, just Americans with their own Ideas on how to make our country better. Some may differ on their political views, but they are still Americans, serving our country!
Hey Eagle, They are communists plain and simple. You don't like it, too bad! I too shed blood in the name of this country and if nothing else have earned the right to refer to those thieving coward pinkos by the name their actions and rhetoric clearly expose them to be.
 
Hey Eagle, They are communists plain and simple. You don't like it, too bad! I too shed blood in the name of this country and if nothing else have earned the right to refer to those thieving coward pinkos by the name their actions and rhetoric clearly expose them to be.

UND VEE VILL DEE-STROY ZEM IN DER NAME UFF DER FADERLAND!

Lemme guess...12E...and you got 'em at "Jack Boots 'R Us"?
 
Doogie is getting all kinds of attention now isn't he... Too bad it's of the negative sort. Oh well he brought this on himself.

I agree, it's going to be hard for him to poor mouth labor at LCC, when he seems to be able to come up with billions when it suits him.
 
At least it got Doug to admit AWA acquired US Airways and stopped a liquidation. Unfortunately there is no way the US Air pilots will see their pensions reinstated by the new US Airways. That was part of the agreement with the financing for the deal. Sad, but true.
 
At least it got Doug to admit AWA acquired US Airways and stopped a liquidation. Unfortunately there is no way the US Air pilots will see their pensions reinstated by the new US Airways. That was part of the agreement with the financing for the deal. Sad, but true.
Not necessarily.

While I don't think it will happen either (probably a thinly veiled threat to go away and leave DAL alone), there's nothing the new creditors could do to stop it (this isn't UAir trying to violate their lending agreement, it's the Feds talking about FORCING them).

The PBGC and the Federal Government have the right, IF they can prove UAir can financially afford it, to FORCE UAir to take their Pension obligations back.

Kind of like the IRS deciding you owe back-taxes. Not much you can do about it once they win the audit; you're screwed.

Gotta love the near-limitless power of the Federal Government.
 
Not necessarily.

While I don't think it will happen either (probably a thinly veiled threat to go away and leave DAL alone), there's nothing the new creditors could do to stop it (this isn't UAir trying to violate their lending agreement, it's the Feds talking about FORCING them).

The PBGC and the Federal Government have the right, IF they can prove UAir can financially afford it, to FORCE UAir to take their Pension obligations back.

Kind of like the IRS deciding you owe back-taxes. Not much you can do about it once they win the audit; you're screwed.

Gotta love the near-limitless power of the Federal Government.

True. The government could stick us all on ships out at sea and give the country back to the Native Americans too. Just not gonna happen.
 
Mr XRMEFLYER, just because you have a different political view in a democracy does not make one a communist. Grow up and respect the political system we have. It is what makes this country so great. Oh by the way I served in the military at the end of the cold war, and Senator Kennedy and Senator Clinton aren't communist, just Americans with their own Ideas on how to make our country better. Some may differ on their political views, but they are still Americans, serving our country!

Of course, they are Not 'communists.' Everyone clearly knows that both of them are "Socialists" :)
 

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