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Scott Crossfield's C210 missing

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Grumman guy said:
800kts at 100 ft. in an F105.
At two atmospheres, they're not that fast. In fact, at that depth, they couldn't outrun a YSD-11 class with a three day head start and the YSD could only make about 8 knots on a good day.
 
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mcjohn said:
Any FI members ever broken the sound barrier?

Used to be in Air Force pilot training (before the dual track days) you broke the sound barrier on your dollar ride in the T-38. So all of us AF types have.
 
FN FAL said:
At two atmospheres, they're not that fast. In fact, at that depth, they couldn't outrun a YSD-11 class with a three day head start and the YSD could only make about 8 knots on a good day.

*cough*four atmospheres*cough*
 
e12pilot said:
*cough*four atmospheres*cough*
The 105 Thunder Chief I helped pull off the bottom of the Chesapeake bay by the PAX river naval air station was in about 33 feet of water. Which ever one you're thinking of could have been at 99 feet, but I can't speak for that one.
 
What's everyones thought on this:
http://www.avweb.com/newswire/12_17a/leadnews/192071-1.html

Witness: Crossfield's Plane "Hit By Lightning"

By Russ Niles

It should not be taken as fact -- eyewitness reports are rarely as accurate as the term suggests -- but one man who lives a few hundred yards from where the main wreckage of test pilot Scott Crossfield's 1960 Cessna 210 crashed last Wednesday said he saw the plane get hit by lightning just before it went down in mountains. "The plane just lit up, and then it went up a couple thousand feet and wheeled around," Gene Stone, 66, who lives near the border of Gordon and Pickens counties, about 70 miles north of Atlanta, told Cox News Services. "I thought it was heading back to the Gordon County airport, but then it sounded like the engine just cut off, and it went over the top of the pines as fast as it could."

A vicious thunderstorm, with reports of hail as large as golf balls, was reported in the area. Weather at Dalton, GA (DNN) near the route of flight was: wind 120 at 12, gusts to 24; visibility 3/4 statute miles in thundershowers; clouds broken at 400, overcast at 1500 feet. Crossfield had filed IFR out of Prattville, AL (1A9) for Manassas, VA (HEF). The flight plan was for 11,000 feet at 148 kts. Crossfield left Pratville, Ala., about 9 a.m. and dropped off radar screens about 11:14 a.m. Crossfield's last radio transmission was a request to divert south of his intended flight path to avoid weather. According to FlightAware's depiction of his track, he went down just after making the southward turn. FlightAware's data tracking function reports that the aircraft's speed dropped to 96 mph before radar contact was lost. The FAA's preliminary report on the crash notes thunderstorms were in the area with wind gusts up to 24 knots. Crossfield's body was found in the wreckage about 12:30 p.m. on Thursday in a wooded ravine about six miles east of Ranger, Ga. Scott Crossfield was 84.
 
Gotta love those "eyewitness" accounts. Did he see the lightning strike while Scott was cruising at 11,000ft? Or was this while he was spinning out of control? Hmmmm....according to your MET report seemed like it would be hard to see anything till it broke out at 1000agl or so. Sorry, just skeptic about the accounts we hear from the public.

Navigating around the severity of the weather that there was is dicey even for the fully equipped airline-type sized aircraft. Severe weather (turbulence, hail, etc) will do wonders to a 767, we all know what it could do to a C210.

Just my opinion.

A sad day indeed. Sounds like Scott died doing what he loved though...we could all be so lucky!
 
Like some others said, going supersonic is a standard syllabus ride in Air Force pilot training for those trained in the T-38...so we're talking maybe 600 new pilots a year doing that. Pilot production now is less than it has been in years past. Tens of thousands of military pilots have gone supersonic, and maybe well over a hundred thousand pilots total in the world. Just my estimation.
It's not that big of deal. It's like the first time you ever drove over 100 mph in your Toyota Corolla...the needle on the speedometer is just a little further along.
 

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