Tommy Boy
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- Feb 25, 2005
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Thats right...I'm calling you out.
To start...we all know you are a cgf stooge. You probably only fly enough to keep current so you can still CALL yourself a pilot.
But lets assume you haven't completely sold your soul and give you a chance.
If you want to be completely fair then put your money where your mouth is. Lay out a list on paper. On one side put all the benefits we had and all the promises we have been given over the past 5yrs...at both companies.
On the otherside of the paper list everything that has been taken away. You know not one promise has been kept. In fact they have been using supposed improvements as a disguise to take things away. Like the tier thing. THERE NEVER USED TO BE TIERS. That was announced under "Improving day 8 travel" Which by the way has gotten worse.
Also answer this question for yourself...They have had years to improve things here and they have continually taken away. Now when the threat of losing control comes along they (miracle of miracles) have had a change of heart. The question is..why should anyone believe them this time? The fact is they are only saying those things to keep out the union.
How come we have only heard "We are broke. We don't have any money. We need to keep cutting." then all of a sudden when we send in our cards we hear "We found some money. Great things are coming. Give us another chance."
Please.
If you think everyone here believes that we need a union just so we can get paid then you are sadly mistaken. We are tired of policies changing at the whim of a blackberry message. We are tired of occ and owner services lying to us and to the owners on a constant basis. We are tired of our quality of life and our ability to perform our jobs safely being constantly eroded.
We are tired. We are tired. We are tired. Management has had years of chances to do what they are saying is supposedly coming now. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY believes it. Actions speak louder than words.
I also ask you to do one thing for me. Read a short book called "Confessions of a Union Buster". I'm sure your opinion is already set in stone but if you want to see it from both sides of the fence read it. If you take the time to do that and honestly look at the current situation you will see that everything management is doing and saying is laid out word for word in that book.
So to sit back and look at the facts, we have this:
Company has a history of lying and cutting.
Company says they have had a change of heart as soon as the threat of a Union appears
Everything they say and do comes directly from the union busters playbook
Sorry but you just aren't going to convince anyone. I suspect you have to tell yourself their lies constantly because deep down you know what we are saying is true.
And trust Bob Tyler? ARE YOU KIDDING? Besides being a ploy directly from the playbook...Mr. Tyler is, was and always will be a SCAB. Do you not find it suspicious that even after all these years we still find him on managements side?
He says he was not a scab because he was a management pilot. I ask you, is a Flight Engineer check airman management?
No, hell no.
I guess he is just too ashamed to say the truth so he finds reasons to justify his actions.
I for one will not believe anything he tells me.
Like I said before, actions speak louder than words and the company has been saying one thing and doing another for years. They are not changing, they are simply trying to prevent changing.
Without the union there is no guarantee that they will not simply remove any improvements or continue to take as they have always done.
So I say Schmeddley you Schmuck....get a life.
To start...we all know you are a cgf stooge. You probably only fly enough to keep current so you can still CALL yourself a pilot.
But lets assume you haven't completely sold your soul and give you a chance.
If you want to be completely fair then put your money where your mouth is. Lay out a list on paper. On one side put all the benefits we had and all the promises we have been given over the past 5yrs...at both companies.
On the otherside of the paper list everything that has been taken away. You know not one promise has been kept. In fact they have been using supposed improvements as a disguise to take things away. Like the tier thing. THERE NEVER USED TO BE TIERS. That was announced under "Improving day 8 travel" Which by the way has gotten worse.
Also answer this question for yourself...They have had years to improve things here and they have continually taken away. Now when the threat of losing control comes along they (miracle of miracles) have had a change of heart. The question is..why should anyone believe them this time? The fact is they are only saying those things to keep out the union.
How come we have only heard "We are broke. We don't have any money. We need to keep cutting." then all of a sudden when we send in our cards we hear "We found some money. Great things are coming. Give us another chance."
Please.
If you think everyone here believes that we need a union just so we can get paid then you are sadly mistaken. We are tired of policies changing at the whim of a blackberry message. We are tired of occ and owner services lying to us and to the owners on a constant basis. We are tired of our quality of life and our ability to perform our jobs safely being constantly eroded.
We are tired. We are tired. We are tired. Management has had years of chances to do what they are saying is supposedly coming now. NOBODY and I mean NOBODY believes it. Actions speak louder than words.
I also ask you to do one thing for me. Read a short book called "Confessions of a Union Buster". I'm sure your opinion is already set in stone but if you want to see it from both sides of the fence read it. If you take the time to do that and honestly look at the current situation you will see that everything management is doing and saying is laid out word for word in that book.
So to sit back and look at the facts, we have this:
Company has a history of lying and cutting.
Company says they have had a change of heart as soon as the threat of a Union appears
Everything they say and do comes directly from the union busters playbook
Sorry but you just aren't going to convince anyone. I suspect you have to tell yourself their lies constantly because deep down you know what we are saying is true.
And trust Bob Tyler? ARE YOU KIDDING? Besides being a ploy directly from the playbook...Mr. Tyler is, was and always will be a SCAB. Do you not find it suspicious that even after all these years we still find him on managements side?
He says he was not a scab because he was a management pilot. I ask you, is a Flight Engineer check airman management?
No, hell no.
I guess he is just too ashamed to say the truth so he finds reasons to justify his actions.
I for one will not believe anything he tells me.
Like I said before, actions speak louder than words and the company has been saying one thing and doing another for years. They are not changing, they are simply trying to prevent changing.
Without the union there is no guarantee that they will not simply remove any improvements or continue to take as they have always done.
So I say Schmeddley you Schmuck....get a life.
