Saying "with you" to Center

[Daveman]

"On to hold"


I also can't stand the thought of somebody "vacating" an altitude. I'd prefer they report "out of" or "leaving" , instead of reporting what sounds like a bodily function. Anybody with an AIM know what that call should really be so I don't mess it up if I ever get to talk on the radio again?

FJ

Guilty.

 

[minitour]

...I can't believe that every ATIS in the country has to remind us to read back all runway crossing and hold short clearances, yet I still observe folks not do it once in a while. I really wish everybody would just do it so we could get garbage like that off the ATIS...

when I was doing my paper for class on runway incursions, I read dozens of those NASA reports. Seems like a good majority of the runway incursions were caused by not reading back hold short instructions. Thankfully most were caught with just a bit of the nose over the hold short line as a C150 taxis by...but you can see how it could be more serious. The ones in CVG are particularly intersting. They actually have them taxi off therunway but hold short of the parallel taxiway. Well when they do that they're still on the active runway...really freaky. Be safe out there!


Oh yeah and the "vacating" thing...

Usually I'll just give it:
"Kentuckyhucky Approach, Cessna 12345 9er thousand 4 hundred descending 2 thousand 5 hundred"

Occasionally if I can tell it's busy (like I have to wait to check on) I'll shorten it or just try to spit it out faster...but I've been trying to do it the same way all the time...anyway hope that helps

-mini

 

[Daveman]

You've descended to 240. Buzzin' around, Center pipes in "cross blah blah at 11 thousand". I'm planning a 2k ft per min. descent to cross 'blah' @ 11.
Now, say me, (pnf), I might pipe in and say XXX vacating....
I like to give the center a heads up.

 

[Daveman]

No comment! Well someone owes mmmmmmmmmmmdonut 5 bucks.

 

[JeffSKDTW]

I also can't stand the thought of somebody "vacating" an altitude. I'd prefer they report "out of" or "leaving" , instead of reporting what sounds like a bodily function. Anybody with an AIM know what that call should really be so I don't mess it up if I ever get to talk on the radio again?

The AIM is always available online at: http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/AIM/

2. The following phraseology should be utilized by pilots for establishing contact with the designated facility:​

(a) When operating in a radar environment: On initial contact, the pilot should inform the controller of the aircraft's assigned altitude preceded by the words "level," or "climbing to," or "descending to," as appropriate; and the aircraft's present vacating altitude, if applicable.

EXAMPLE-​

1. (Name) CENTER, (aircraft identification), LEVEL (altitude or flight level).
2. (Name) CENTER, (aircraft identification), LEAVING (exact altitude or flight level), CLIMBING TO OR DESCENDING TO (altitude of flight level).​

​

 

[Falconjet]

Jeff: Thank you for the reply and the online reference. I will add that to my favorites.

It is easy to see where somebody could get the idea to use the word vacating since it is right there in the description, but I'm glad to see that the proper terms are level, descending to or climbing to.

Now, if I could only get into a window seat they might allow me to use the radio (with ATC) again!

FJ

 

[MED]

Are you sure? AIM 4-2-3

my bad

 

[FlyinTim]

I'm a Big... 'Annnndddd Providence Tower"... ahh everyone yells at me...the hell with it...primacy at its finest. lol

 

[staledog]

i can't believe i read this whole thread. only took me 45 minutes.

also, i can't stand "fife" or "tree".

 

[flyifrvfr]

Everytime I hear someone say tally ho I key up and say I don't know about you, but I had seven hoe's the last time I tallied my hoes.