Say bye to your old Pilot Certificate

[Weasil]

Airmen: Say Bye Bye to Paper Certificates
Under FAA rulemaking proposed Friday, two years after a final rule becomes effective, paper pilot certificates could no longer be used and five years after the final rule becomes effective, certain other paper airmen certificates, such as those of flight engineers and mechanics, could no longer be used. Instead, after those respective dates, airmen would have to hold “upgraded, counterfeit-resistant plastic certificates,” like the ones the FAA has been issuing since 2003. There would be a $2 fee to upgrade. In addition, those who transfer ownership of U.S.-registered aircraft would have five days from the transaction to notify the FAA Aircraft Registry. Those who apply for aircraft registration would have to include their printed or typed name with their signature. The FAA said these requirements are intended to assist law-enforcement agencies in their effort to combat drug smuggling in general aviation aircraft, but the agency didn’t explain how. Comments are due March 6.

DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

Federal Aviation Administration

14 CFR Parts 47, 61, 63, and 65

[Docket No. FAA-2006-26714; Notice No. 06-21]
RIN 2120-AI43

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Oh HOT DOG!!!!

 

[bailout]

Who still has a paper certificate?

 

[BlackPilot628]

Some of the guys at the Majors do. They haven't had to get new certs in years.

 

[⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐]

Paper Certificates? What's that? I thought everyone had "plastic" nowadays. Even FOs at majors must have added their "new" ICAO SIC rating to their certificates. They’ll probably have pictures, fingerprints, etc. on them.

 

[Jolly Roger]

Yes, I still have the old paper cert, now when will it be invalid....?

 

[I HATE HATS]

If you still use your SSN as your certificate number, you can avoid the $2 fee AND get a new plastic certificate by requesting a change of airman certificate number: http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/change_certificate_number/

--Always trying to save a buck (or two).

 

[V1cut]

If you still use your SSN as your certificate number, you can avoid the $2 fee AND get a new plastic certificate by requesting a change of airman certificate number: http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/change_certificate_number/

--Always trying to save a buck (or two).

Thanks for that link, I have been meaning to do that. I had a Fed in the jumpseat mention it just last month. I still have paper certs.
THX again!

 

[B190Captain]

Who still has a paper certificate?

I did until last may.

 

[jegermeister]

If you still use your SSN as your certificate number, you can avoid the $2 fee AND get a new plastic certificate by requesting a change of airman certificate number: http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/change_certificate_number/

--Always trying to save a buck (or two).

Good idea to change your number if it's your SSN. But come on. Please tell me you're kidding about the 2 bucks.

 

[AC560]

I remember when I got my license in the mail and was like what the f*uck I have to cut it out.

 

[wmuflyguy]

I remember when I got my license in the mail and was like what the f*uck I have to cut it out.

That and anyone with a decent quality scanner and printer could make copies of it.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

For sure, save the $2. Screw the feds. They want to change it they should pay for it.

 

[BlackCoffee]

Anyony got the link to order a new one? Still paper ATP here from a long time ago.

 

[landlover]

i still have a paper certificate

 

[skyaddict]

I wish someone had thought about the problem of faxing/photocopying certificates (as many of us have to routinely do with our companies) when they came up with this plastic scheme... they don't scan or fax worth a d*mn. But at least they don't fall apart at the seams like the paper ones did.

 

[⌐⌐⌐⌐⌐]

...they don't scan or fax worth a d*mn...

I think they wanted to make it more difficult to scan/copy. I usually select the "lightest" setting on the copy machine and then it turns out very clear.