Santulli's visit to SC?

[SkyGirl]

Sounds like you're way over qualified to be working at NJA...

Yes, no offense SafetyTheSeat, but why, when you have 1550 hours in Gulfstreams, would you go to an organization with no Gulfstreams?

_SkyGirl_

 

[TurboJetCpt]

Yes, no offense SafetyTheSeat, but why, when you have 1550 hours in Gulfstreams, would you go to an organization with no Gulfstreams?

_SkyGirl_

For the same reason I have a whole logbook full of international DC10 time, but fly for Netjets...a combination of 9/11 and hiring fortune, or misfortune, depending on how you look at it, opportunity, and most importantly, TIMING. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[GVFlyer]

Yes, no offense SafetyTheSeat, but why, when you have 1550 hours in Gulfstreams, would you go to an organization with no Gulfstreams?

_SkyGirl_

Good question. There's always been a shortage of qualified Gulfstream captains, but it's worse now.

For instance, Bank of America looked for two GV captains for nearly two years before partially filling their requirements by hiring an FSI GV instructor. It took Oprah a year to find Felix, then three more to find her most recent hires, Ken and Terry. Simon Bros. has experienced difficulties finding Gulfstream captains to man their new aircraft. American Express, last time I checked, had an open billet for a G-IV captain. Avjet always has an open requirement for Gulfstream captains and the employee who recruits one gets a $2500 finders fee.

NJI has recently hired two pilots I know who are G1159 only and has in some cases had to waive their 500 hours in Gulfstream requirement entirely. Even Gulfstream Flight Operations can't find qualified Gulfstream pilots - their most recent hire was a USAF tanker driver.

GV

 

[Hogprint]

GV Flyer posted:

Even Gulfstream Flight Operations can't find qualified Gulfstream pilots - their most recent hire was a USAF tanker driver.

GV

I'm sure that if he was flying tanker's he's qualified to fly your G's.

Come on guys. It's another plane. Pull back, cows get small, push forward, cows get big.

 

[Hogprint]

I get it, Captain. You sound like a former Army Warrant Officer with a high school education and a built-in resentment for Commissioned Officers who's just all giddy to be flying something where the wings don't move faster than the fuselage. Give it a break, Chief.

Got a little Warrant envy there Colonel? The W1's and W2's bagging all the flight time, while you fly the desk?

 

[GVFlyer]

GV Flyer posted:



I'm sure that if he was flying tanker's he's qualified to fly your G's.

Come on guys. It's another plane. Pull back, cows get small, push forward, cows get big.

Pull back farther, the cows bet bigger again...


You miss the point, Hogprint. The Gulfstream Flight Operations Manual states that pilots will be rated and hired in the following Categories:

Category I - Experienced Gulfstream Pilots

Category II - Experienced Transport Pilots

Category III - Experienced Pilots

If Category I pilots are available, that's what the company is to hire. By the Manual, upgrade times will be 2 to 4 times longer for category II pilots, and Flight Ops needs functioning pilots as soon as possible.

In any event he won't fly a real Gulfstream for years. New hires at Gulfstream who are not Gulfstream rated (with the exception of experimental test pilots) go first to the Airborne Product Support G100, then progress through the Israeli Products Department before flying the Gulfstreams.

Gulfstream used to hire only Gulfstream Captains, but it's been years since the company has been able do that.

Part of the reason, I suspect, is compensation. At Gulfstream, unrated FO's start at $80K, average captain pay is $125K and tops out at about $155K (with a defined benefit pension plan), while many industry positions pay over $200k.

GV





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[SeaSpray]

Got a little Warrant envy there Colonel? The W1's and W2's bagging all the flight time, while you fly the desk?

My service doesn't have aviation warrant officers. I did get my joint service block colored in with the Army, though. You're partially right about why I'm planning to leave the military. This will probably be my last cockpit assignment for a while. Even if I go back to my weapons system, it is not well suited for an easy transition to civilian flying.

 

[WGFP48]

And it came to pass that the archangel descended from heaven and spoke to the pilot in a dream.

Verily I say unto you, go forth and bid the Lord God Bird......

And thou shalt be a great eagle with great wings, long winged, full of feathers, which hath divers colours, come unto Okatie and take the highest branch of the cedar;

Say now unto the rebellious house, Know ye not what these things mean? Behold, the king of Columbus is come to Okatie, and hath taken the king thereof, and the princes thereof, and led them with him to Columbus.

That the kingdom might be base, that it might not lift itself up, but that by keeping of his covenant it might stand.


My dream was awesome! Is this how it came to you to fly the God Bird?

I've been talking to every NJI'er I can find. Nice bunch of folks. Funny...nobody sees the sky falling.

Just you WGFP48

Once again the rantings and ravings of a mad man!! Did you not take your meds?? Or maybe "the small man" problem...or is it " you like gladiator movies"? In any case the ravings that you put to print show your true character...I have not defamed anyone here...I fly airplanes as a passion...not a job...any idiot can fly a plane...but one with true passion in aviation is a pilot...you sir are nothing but a "truck driver"!!

 

[SeaSpray]

I've been talking to every NJI'er I can find. Nice bunch of folks. Funny...nobody sees the sky falling.

Do you think it might be because they know something you don't?

 

[WGFP48]

Do you think it might be because they know something you don't?

BINGO!