Rumor: Is United laying off 500 pilots this fall?

[BigMotorToter]

I've read on a couple other message boards that United is laying off pilots. Any United pilot hear this and can verify it?

Hang in there.

 

[cal73cap]

Heard the same thing here at CAL. Probably about 400-500 furloughes after the summer flying ends.

 

[Skyboy722]

I've read on a couple other message boards that United is laying off pilots. Any United pilot hear this and can verify it?

Hang in there.

Although it doesn't look good for any of us, I don't know how anyone could possibly know this. It will be a different industry in three months, let alone next fall...

 

[Klamath]

Noticed your JAPA Logo, shouldn't it say, "Just a cut down below?"

Just kidding, hope you don't take it too seriously

Klamath

 

[ualdriver]

I've read on a couple other message boards that United is laying off pilots. Any United pilot hear this and can verify it?

Hang in there.

UAL announced that they're laying off 600 union workers (i.e. not just pilots). They haven't said for sure that they're laying off one pilot yet. We're supposedly parking around 30 airplanes after the summer. That's all anyone knows right now.

ualdriver

 

[Motown]

Noticed your JAPA Logo, shouldn't it say, "Just a cut down below?"

Just kidding, hope you don't take it too seriously

Klamath

Mohyels (the guys who do the circumcisions) work for tips only.

 

[Fly2AK]

I was told today by one of the system Chief's that right now they aren't planning on laying off any pilots. Who knows time will tell.

 

[Uniform Shop]

Heard the same thing here at CAL. Probably about 400-500 furloughes after the summer flying ends.

That is just rumor. This was said at an instructor meeting from Kellner this week.

"Kellner gave a keep up the good work speech. We may or not merge, oil is high,.....etc. Will look at staffing this summer, try not to furlough ....probably will not... 300's leave the fleet in 09, 500's in 2011. ( I may have that backwards ) Even swap for aircraft."

I don't like the "try" part but that's the official word so any numbers you are hearing is just rumor.

 

[Klamath]

Mohyels (the guys who do the circumcisions) work for tips only.

All they get is the tip?

 

[BRA]

Although it doesn't look good for any of us, I don't know how anyone could possibly know this. It will be a different industry in three months, let alone next fall...

try 3 weeks or 3 days the way fuel and earnings reports have been going!

 

[Motown]

All they get is the tip?

Exactly.

There are plenty of other Mohyel (circumcisor) / Brit Milah (circumcision) jokes, but most are in poor taste.

 

[Ex737Driver]

Heard the same thing here at CAL. Probably about 400-500 furloughes after the summer flying ends.

And we only need $291M in concessions to keep the airline going............we can turn their offer down for C02 if the flight attendants turn their agreement down................we can't raise fares because the consumer won't pay it............we are overstaffed in the fall by 5%........................


How many more lies are we going to be told my mgmt before we raise the BS flag? We spent $209M on LHR routes this year and just announced that terminal B in IAH will undergo a new $1.2B revamp, of which CAL will pay $600M. Have you seen a day in ANY hub where you could drop trip or a turn because there WAS enough staffing?

No furloughs. No vacation buyback. No VJM. No selling vacation into your 401K. And for the age 60+, die in my left seat pilots, move the hell on. Get a life and quit trying to fcuk the rest of us.

 

[Andy]

I've read on a couple other message boards that United is laying off pilots. Any United pilot hear this and can verify it?

Hang in there.

One of my classmates at the Training Center said that's the rumor he heard from a friend - 500 pilots. Didn't mention fall.
At this point, things are changing very rapidly, so anything can happen this fall.
A straight furlough of 500 pilots in one big cut won't work; it'd practically ground the Airbus fleet. I can see them cutting 150 on the first cut while surplusing off of other fleets, but not 500 at one time.

The furlough numbers would be reduced by any other program they had to reduce headcount - leaves of absence, etc.
At this point, it's shaping up to be furloughs at a lot of airlines starting this fall. About the only airline that's safe right now is Southwest.

 

[AWACoff]

Heard the same thing here at CAL. Probably about 400-500 furloughes after the summer flying ends.

You must enjoy being a management lackey throwing fear grenades around. Why don't you go pick up some more open time for the company. Also, if you could please assist the company by doing voluntary junior man on all of your days off....that'd be great. Oh, I think we're also going to need you to come in on Sunday. M'kay, thanks!

P.S. Don't forget to sell all of your vacation!

 

[Jonny Sacko]

Take that! Bam! Ouch. Jeezz AWA, you're brutal. Nice!