Rumor: Alaska eyeing US Airways

[reepicheep]

Impossible. USAPA's Constitution and Bylaws require DOH integrations with Conditions and Restrictions to protect BOTH sides. No one will ever get "stapled" by USAPA.

There will never be any "integration" with USAPA anyway...once you are parted out the small number of pilots, if any, that go with airplanes will be offered their place at the bottom of the acquirer seniority list, or preferential interviews; take it or leave it ala Southwest/Republic. Nobody will ever again make the mistake of entering into an actual merger with US Airways.

 

[The Prussian]

Green banana: if "faux new is fairly unbalanced," what is ABC,NBC,CBS, MSNBC, PBS and NPR?

Green Banana's reply:

"They do not tout themselves as 'Fair and Balanced'"


Prussian's reply:

"For good reason..."

 

[Jaffo]

You are dilousional, most westies have no intrest in your sh**y trans atlantic routes
or a/c. By the way AWA was one of 3 airlines to report a profit the quarter before the
Merger.

 

[BeCareful!]

Really Jaffo?

If westicles don't want all the east flying for themselves, then why haven't they suggested a fence to see if we could all move on with this abortion?

In other words, you say they're not interested in the 330's....OK then, what exactly are they interested in? Are you saying they don't want our flying? Or what? Let's fence off all our stuff you think you're too good for and MOVE ON WITH IT!

 

[BeCareful!]

There will never be any "integration" with USAPA anyway...once you are parted out the small number of pilots, if any, that go with airplanes will be offered their place at the bottom of the acquirer seniority list, or preferential interviews; take it or leave it ala Southwest/Republic. Nobody will ever again make the mistake of entering into an actual merger with US Airways.

Wow, you sound like you really know all about everything. Impressive.

 

[becket]

Really Jaffo?

If westicles don't want all the east flying for themselves, then why haven't they suggested a fence to see if we could all move on with this abortion?

In other words, you say they're not interested in the 330's....OK then, what exactly are they interested in? Are you saying they don't want our flying? Or what? Let's fence off all our stuff you think you're too good for and MOVE ON WITH IT!

There is no "West" to negotiate with. Nobody has the authority to offer any solutions other than what was agreed to...meaning the Nic. award. Leonidas CANNOT negotiate with a labor union to strike a deal affecting 40% of another labor unions members! Get it?!

The SC??s thought they were so clever with this USAPA thing, well it was the dumbest move they could have made if they wanted to evade the Nic. award. One airline, one union, one seniority list at contract signing or whenever Judge Wake decides to enforce it. Once again, you dipshi*s did this to yourselves.

 

[Grandpa +65]

Whao! This has become a non sense Thread

 

[igneousy2]

Oh my good this is like trying to talk to a three year old. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Alaska wants the EAST flying. To AVOID being acquired by a larger airline. It would be ALASKA PURCHASING US AIRWAYS. It's really true most airline pilots are stupid. No wonder management finds you all so easy to manipulate.

I'm guessing you don't work for Alaska because if you did you would know that...

1. Buying US Air East would require Bill or Brad to stick their neck out and do something radical which does not happen around here.

2. In light of these risky financial times, they are decreasing there debt and therefore it is doubtful that they would do anything that would require the debt load to go higher which a transaction to purchase US-Air East almost certainly would. They are not even borrowing money for this years aircraft deliveries.

3. Any steps Alaska does take are very small, calculated and easily reversed. i.e. no new fleet types to serve new markets (Allegiant to Hawaii) Notice the Hawaii flying started out with a couple of airplanes in a couple of hub cities. If Hawaii didn't work out it would have been very easy to rip out the rafts and redeploy the aircraft elsewhere in the existing route network. New routes are almost always previous code shares (almost all of Hawaii, SEA-ATL, SEA-IAH)or routes where someone has left the market (PDX-HNL, SJC-AUS). Buying US-Air would definitely not fit into this pattern.

4. I don't think our management is really worried about being bought. In the past year, our market cap has gone from around 600 Million to 1.5 Billion today. If nobody snatched us up at 600 Million, it is doubtful they could pay 1.5 Billion +. In reality name one airline that could afford a hostile take over of another major airline right now as the way you do a hostile takeover is to somehow offer a large premium of what the shareholders could get on the open market...1.5 - 2 times, which for Alaska would imply a price of 2 - 3 BILLION dollars. If these industry consolidation predictions come true, I doubt any of the mergers in the airline industry would be hostile.

 

[waveflyer]

Igneousy2-
the world has nothing but disdain for you and your logic...

;-)

 

[Two Feathers]

igneousy2 are you trying to make sense? That's a dangerous game to play in this industry. You know damn well what is going to happen and only the timing remains a mystery. AA and AS will join up in one form or another and this has nothing to do with facts, rumors or things making sense. It will take place simply because it is your dream come true. Not your good dream but who's keeping track. Maybe the code will be AA or AS. Or maybe AAA or AAAS or even ASS. Tough to guess at this point.

Study up bruddah.