RJDC 05-10-07 Industry Update

[braveheart]

RJ Defense Coalition
Ensuring One Level of Representation
www.rjdefense.com

Industry Update
May 10, 2007​

The May 10th RJDC industry update is now available for download from the RJDC's web site.

This update includes:

1. Empty "Brand Scope" Promises Leads to Tenth DCI Carrier
2. As Delta hints at Possible Comair Sale, More Scope Problems Loom
3. ALPA's Conduct Stalls SkyWest Organizing Drive
4. Will Industry Consolidation Trigger an ALPA Exodus?

[FONT=Arial,sans-serif]LINK: [/FONT][FONT=Arial,sans-serif]http://www.rjdefense.com/2007/051007upd.pdf[/FONT]​

 

[WWEfan]

I can't wait to read it.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Biggest lie: Ensuring One Level of Representation

Then why are they only seeking cash in their lawsuit against ALPA? Not "representation"...just money.

Liars.

 

[braveheart]

Then why are they only seeking cash in their lawsuit against ALPA? Not "representation"...just money.

Liars.

Please take the time to read the documentation. You'll see that the suit(s) seek numerous forms of relief. Even ALPA's legal papers acknowledge this.

http://www.rjdefense.com/legal_info.htm
http://www.rjdefense.com/2003/ASALitigationFactSheet111803.pdf
http://www.rjdefense.com/2003/Cmrlitigationfactsheet111803.pdf

 

[JoeMerchant]

Biggest lie: Ensuring One Level of Representation

Then why are they only seeking cash in their lawsuit against ALPA? Not "representation"...just money.

Liars.

Occam,

I thought your reading comprehension was better than that.... read the relief sections again.... It is you that is a liar.....

 

[Occam's Razor]

Please take the time to read the documentation. You'll see that the suit(s) seek numerous forms of relief. Even ALPA's legal papers acknowledge this.

http://www.rjdefense.com/legal_info.htm
http://www.rjdefense.com/2003/ASALitigationFactSheet111803.pdf
http://www.rjdefense.com/2003/Cmrlitigationfactsheet111803.pdf

Cool! So youi guys are ready to drop the monetary damages part? It's all about "representation"...right?

Let's hear it!

 

[braveheart]

So you guys are ready to drop the monetary damages part?

Again, please take the time to read the documentation. In ALPA's own documents, they contend that a damages claim is a legal requirement.

But better yet, why not demand that ALPA enact reforms? Then there won't be a need waste good web board space debating legal points.

http://www.rjdefense.com/2006/alpa_motion_121506.pdf

 

[Occam's Razor]

Again, please take the time to read the documentation. In ALPA's own documents, they contend that a damages claim is a legal requirement.

But better yet, why not demand that ALPA enact reforms? Then there won't be a need waste good web board space debating legal points.

http://www.rjdefense.com/2006/alpa_motion_121506.pdf

Riiiiight!

"ALPA's making us demand money!"

All-Conference chutzpah, that.

 

[doh]

Cool! So youi guys are ready to drop the monetary damages part? It's all about "representation"...right?

Let's hear it!

What is a "youi"? Or what are "youi"?

 

[PunchTheClown]

on second thought, I'll hold tounge

 

[scott hall]

Thanks for the update, John. Hopefully you will help the ALPA diehards see the light.

 

[Occam's Razor]

What is a "youi"? Or what are "youi"?

It was a vague reference to the "Eloi". The race of humans that are used as a food source for Morlocks in HG Wells "The Time Machine".

I actually found one web site that helps me understand the RJDC.

TheEssentialRJDC.com



http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

 

[scott hall]

Any updates on the actual lawsuit?

 

[Sig]

It was a vague reference to the "Eloi".

Oooh, you bastard. You snatched a great one right outta my brainium!

If this is proof that I think like you, and great likes think a mind, then there's hope for me yet!


** And that's a syllogism, NOT X-RATED.

 

[Occam's Razor]

Oooh, you bastard. You snatched a great one right outta my brainium!

Weena loves you!

 

[FDJ2]

Empty "Brand Scope" Promises Leads to Tenth DCI Carrier

LMAO. The RJDC does not believe pilots can control a company's code. If that is true, then how can a contract prevent a company from outsourcing its flying.:laugh:

 

[FDJ2]

Again, please take the time to read the documentation. In ALPA's own documents, they contend that a damages claim is a legal requirement.

You do not need to sue for $$$ if all you want is injunctive relief to prevent an ALPA MEC from controlling the outsourcing of its code.

BTW, how can you prevent outsourcing and be in compliance with the relief section of the RJDC lawsuit? Can a pilot group limit the outsourcing of its code or not?

 

[FDJ2]

Any updates on the actual lawsuit?

Going no where.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Ask SkyWestALPA (In ALPA's own words)

Submit a question to Ask SkyWestALPA​

Question:The website: www.rjdefense.com, doesn't give ALPA many accolades for their attention to the needs to regional pilots in light of their major partners. How can we be assured our interests will be protected in regard to the scope clauses, etc. promoted by ALPA to their major airline pilots to settle their contracts, which then ultimately influence us?

Answer:Short answer is that this is small group of pilots that have been working for change in ALPA for many years now. ALPA is imperfect and these pilots have the right to pursue change in ALPA because of the democratic structure of the union.

The conclusion that ALPA does not give much attention to the regional carriers fails to give weight to the fact that the Comair pilots got millions in strirke funds in 2000 during their time of great need. Also regional carriers represented by ALPA now have a huge voice in the Association and with growing numbers will have an even bigger voice in the future.

ALPA Safety has been mainly focused on regional carriers for the last ten years to help make improvements in pilot training, and equipment flown by regional carriers. ALPA's infuence and support in the area of Safety has benefitted the regionals both indirectly and directly over the years.

So could some things be improved, yes, but remember the influence of ALPA is the very reason that we enjoy many of the features we have at SkyWest in our pay and work rules. Wouldn't it be nice to have all of what we have worked for over the years protected by a binding contract?

 

[PCL_128]

Occam, you're wasting your time with this guy. Braveheart is Dan Ford. Ignore him and he'll crawl back into his hole and send some more checks to that twit Haber.

I actually found one web site that helps me understand the RJDC.

TheEssentialRJDC.com

Now that's some funny stuff!!! Have you ordered yours, yet, Johnny?