Riverside Flight Center (Tulsa, OK)

[rickyrhodesii]

Has anyone trained at Riverside Flight Center in Tulsa, OK? (http://www.riversideflightcenter.com/index.html) If so, would you mind commenting on operations?

They seem like a legitimate small "flight academy," Let me know what you think

Or, if you haven't trained there, have you heard anything about this place (good or bad)?

 

[agpilot34]

Never heard anything about that school, but I did my private and commercial at Riverside (Spartan) back in '89 and '90. It's a good airport to train at. Fairly heavy traffic (mostly student), and close enough to TUL that you get to deal with ATC on a daily basis. As soon as you cross over the 71st street bridge departing out to the North, you are in TUL's airspace, so you get alot of experience with that.

 

[MFRskyknight]

If I'm thinking of the right place, yes I have heard of it and the owner seems like a really decent guy. As far as the airport goes it's the busiest in the state. Something like 800+ ops a day, so be prepared to sit in line on the good days.

I was there about three weeks ago at 8 pm or so for a quick touch-and-go and there were 4 or 5 planes in the pattern (couldn't understand what half of them were saying--I think Spartan is pretty heavy on foreign students) and another 3 waiting to take off.

Hope that helps.

MFR

 

[agpilot34]

Spartan is VERY heavy on foreign students... always have been. I have to hand it to the RVS controllers, they manage to sort out all that jiberish on the radio and figure out what everyone is doing, and are USUALLY very patient. I can remember sitting in line a few times for 15 to 20 minutes on good flying days back when I was a student there. You definitely get a lot of experience operating in a high traffic environment flying there. On a pretty weekend, you'll have everything under the sun in the pattern at once... students, experimentals, warbirds, corporate jets you name it. You never know what you're gonna see on the ramp.

 

[mattpilot]

uhm... test

**edit.. i dont' freakin believe it.

Over half of the thread got deleted. WHY?

No wonder cle*ar and a m*illion is better.

 

[agpilot34]

What kind of hoaky f#cked up bullsh!t is this?? The idiots that are running this place are running it straight into the ground. NO wonder CLEAR AND A MILLION IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS!!! EDIT THAT, A$$HOLES!!

 

[gear goes down]

Ahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!

 

[Crossky]

What kind of hoaky f#cked up bullsh!t is this?? The idiots that are running this place are running it straight into the ground. NO wonder CLEAR AND A MILLION IS GROWING BY LEAPS AND BOUNDS!!! EDIT THAT, A$$HOLES!!

You and mattpilot can go to clear and a million, and don't come back. This board is a FREE service supported by advertisers. There are other things worth complaining about in this world, but a website discussion board malfunction IS NOT one of them. Did you know the founder and creator of this board was KILLED in a mid-air collision in Ohio this fall? He left a wife and at least one child behind, with another on the way. Please, have a little respect for him and his family this Christmas.

BTW is Riverside Flight Academy where ProFlight used to be, next to Christiansen Aviation? Do not rent at Christiansen, their maintenance SUCKS and contributed to a colleague's engine fire in one of their Duchesses and his accident and Death. Is Robertson still around at RVS? Good planes but Deanna is a character, Robertson is good once you get used to her.

 

[mattpilot]

You and mattpilot can go to clear and a million, and don't come back. This board is a FREE service supported by advertisers. There are other things worth complaining about in this world, but a website discussion board malfunction IS NOT one of them.

Right. Can't argue with that.

BTW is Riverside Flight Academy where ProFlight used to be, next to Christiansen Aviation? Do not rent at Christiansen, their maintenance SUCKS and contributed to a colleague's engine fire in one of their Duchesses and his accident and Death. Is Robertson still around at RVS? Good planes but Deanna is a character, Robertson is good once you get used to her.

Christiansen isn't the best in the world, but it isn't the worst either. I got plenty of hours at christiansen. Their planes are in OK condition - nothing to rave about, but good for the price they are charging.

As for the duchess accident. I don't suppose you are talking about the one where there was a engine failure over/near OKM where the pilot elected to NOT land at OKM and procede to RVS, and then attempt a go-around on one engine, with the end result of a Vmca roll?

Yea, i can see how that is christiansens fault.

 

[gear goes down]

Christiansen's planes are not the best. The get the job done, hopefully. I rented a few from there, and denied one plane for missing screws in the cowling (about 6 or so screws, dont remember). And on one of them the engine started sputering after takeoff at night, and in the same plane the wing made creeking noises after landing (no it wasnt a hard landing either, it was a perfect landing). Lets just say i wont fly that plane anymore!

 

[agpilot34]

You and mattpilot can go to clear and a million, and don't come back. This board is a FREE service supported by advertisers. There are other things worth complaining about in this world, but a website discussion board malfunction IS NOT one of them. Did you know the founder and creator of this board was KILLED in a mid-air collision in Ohio this fall? He left a wife and at least one child behind, with another on the way. Please, have a little respect for him and his family this Christmas.

BTW is Riverside Flight Academy where ProFlight used to be, next to Christiansen Aviation? Do not rent at Christiansen, their maintenance SUCKS and contributed to a colleague's engine fire in one of their Duchesses and his accident and Death. Is Robertson still around at RVS? Good planes but Deanna is a character, Robertson is good once you get used to her.

I dont remember yanking your chain, so why dont you shut the hell up... you've got some nerve preaching to me about respect. I know all about the accident you speak of, and my post had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the family, so dont even go there!! As far as your little excuse of a "website discussion board malfuunction", thats BS. Entire threads being deleted, I can see as a malfunction. individual, selective posts... sorry, that doesnt happen. This is the first time I have EVER said anything negative about this board, unlike some of you other consistent b!tchers and whiners that complain every about something every other post! Oh yeah, and as far as Christiansen's maintainance goes, the Duchess you are talking about was a POS, and it had been for years! I fail to see how you figure that their maintainance in any way had ANYTHING to do with the pilot's poor decision making. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of Bill Christiansen, but his aircraft are better maintained than SOME in the Tulsa area I could mention. And yes, Deanna is still around as far as I know.

 

[Crossky]

As for the duchess accident. I don't suppose you are talking about the one where there was a engine failure over/near OKM where the pilot elected to NOT land at OKM and procede to RVS, and then attempt a go-around on one engine, with the end result of a Vmca roll?

Yea, i can see how that is christiansens fault.

That's the one. Matt, I didn't write that the accident was Chritiansen's fault, I wrote that:
"their maintenance SUCKS and contributed to a colleague's engine fire in one of their Duchesses and his accident and Death".

Key word here is contributed. Maybe I should have put a period after Duchesses.

The accident was on his shoulders, I agree that OKM was the better choice and attempting a SE GA from a TW approach at night instead of landing with two green gear lights into the wind was the WORST thing he could've done. But no fire no problemo see?

 

[Crossky]

I dont remember yanking your chain, so why dont you shut the hell up... you've got some nerve preaching to me about respect. I know all about the accident you speak of, and my post had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the family, so dont even go there!! As far as your little excuse of a "website discussion board malfuunction", thats BS. Entire threads being deleted, I can see as a malfunction. individual, selective posts... sorry, that doesnt happen. This is the first time I have EVER said anything negative about this board, unlike some of you other consistent b!tchers and whiners that complain every about something every other post! Oh yeah, and as far as Christiansen's maintainance goes, the Duchess you are talking about was a POS, and it had been for years! I fail to see how you figure that their maintainance in any way had ANYTHING to do with the pilot's poor decision making. Granted, I'm not a huge fan of Bill Christiansen, but his aircraft are better maintained than SOME in the Tulsa area I could mention. And yes, Deanna is still around as far as I know.

Wow, you want me to run to QT to get some tampons for you? Cause you've got PMS. Bad.

I flew that Duchess too. I was not making the case that their maintenance had 'ANYTHING' to do with the pilot's poor decision making. Untimately it was his fault, yes, but we all know most of their planes were (when I was around) shoddily maintained, one of the results of which was that fire.

I'm done, want some egg nogg? Second thought, I think you've had too much. Feliz Navidad.

 

[agpilot34]

I havent even started on the egg nogg yet. I need to just go to bed, it's been a loooong day. Sorry if I came down a little hard... that about having respect for Mark's family hit a bit low for me. Anyway, no harm no foul... Merry Christmas!

 

[Crossky]

No prob, I think must've been moody myself for having to work the holiday too. Merry Christmas!