Ricci Ruse/Handschuch Hustle

[doh]

As we near the vote, watch for this oldie but goodie! Handschuch and/or Jason will tell a pilot something along these lines: "If the union is voted out, Kenn will immediately increase pilot pay to make you THE HIGHEST PAID PILOTS IN THE INDUSTRY. Kenn won't put it in writing, but pass that along to everyone you know. If they don't believe it, tell them to contact us and we'll confirm it".
How do I know it's going to happen? Because that is the ruse he used the first time Travel Air/Flight Options had a union vote. They voted no. Two years later, when they voted to join the union, they did so as the LOWEST paid pilots in the industry.
Do not fall for the Ricci Ruse/Hanschuch Hustle! If Kenn/Rick won't put it in writing, it will not happen! And aren't they demanding the union put seniority list integration in writing? Why should they be held to a lower standard than they demand of the IBT?

 

[Imissmypilot]

I was told this not too long ago by a old RTA guy: if ricci won't put it in writing, don't believe it. If he will put it in writing, have it acid tested for disappearing ink.

Truer words never spoken.

 

[el raton]

Highest paid? "Sure thing! We will form a committee to structure a bonus plan which will make Flexjet pilots the highest paid in the industry!"

 

[gunfyter]

Make sure you find out which industry

 

[doh]

Make sure you find out which industry

That's awesome! You're cracking me up!

 

[hank1292]

You do know that they (management) can't say that or put it in writing. It is against the law. If the company did, they would be sued by the union before the ink was dry. The fact that you want people to challenge management to do so is ridiculous.

 

[hank1292]

Additional thought. The FJPOC and 1108 have all stated that if the union is voted in the new JCBA will include pay rates at or higher than the new NJ TA. I have been told this face to face by FJPOC members. It is splashed all over the VUH. Bet they (IBT or the local) won't put that in writing. You asked for both sides to be held to the same standard. I can only shake my head.

For what it's worth I don't see any sort of pay raise coming out of the mess either way the vote goes. We will be lucky to keep what we have now.

 

[Bjtdrvr]

It certainly will not go up without the union. Before the union Kenn always said FO would be the highest paid. Then nj got their first raise and instead of following through and giving the FO pilots a raise he said nj is unsustainable. So then fj and cs gave their pilots a raise to keep out the unions. In the meantime Kenn is removed and cashes out of FO to the tune of about 70 million. And FO get Sheringa and now a union. NJ gets another raise and so does fj and cs. FO did not get any raise until the union ta and that was done during what some are calling the worst economic downturn ever! But it STILL provided about 30 percent or more increase + col increases and work rules!

 

[slowtation capt]

Additional thought. The FJPOC and 1108 have all stated that if the union is voted in the new JCBA will include pay rates at or higher than the new NJ TA. I have been told this face to face by FJPOC members. It is splashed all over the VUH. Bet they (IBT or the local) won't put that in writing. You asked for both sides to be held to the same standard. I can only shake my head.

For what it's worth I don't see any sort of pay raise coming out of the mess either way the vote goes. We will be lucky to keep what we have now.

You are twisting what people are saying on the VUH

People stated that NJ+ should be what we strive for in negotiations.

Nobody said they promise NJ+

 

[gunfyter]

That's awesome! You're cracking me up!

Just sayin'. We recently found out 10/250 really means 10/140