Retiring F-117??

[Fromage]

SIGnificantly Gay,


The only navy you are in sails rubber duckies across the bathtub. Don't get distracted by watching your fart bubbles rise and drop your laptop in the water. Safety First!

 

[SIG600]

Wow... touched a nerve with that little penis joke huh?

 

[G100F16]

Think I'll pitch in on this fight and perhaps get it back on track:

The F117 is a great plane, but expensive to maintain...since they were basically custom made.

The Airbus is an efficient plane to fly (if you want to call it flying) - but not a JOY to fly like a Boeing (I have time in both). You PROGRAM the Airbus (319/320) - you don't really FLY it; the fly-by-wire is like control-wheel steering (not like the F16, which flies like a real plane), and lands like a computer/remote control airplane. Boeing actually builds planes with efficiency AND feel.

If you have no fighter time...please don't try to sell your Eurofighter to me. Kinda like me trying to school you on what flavor of cheese is best. Could go on about beating you in 4vX, BFM, ACM, SEAD, CAS, etc...but you don't have a Eurofighter, nor do you fly it....nor I guess would you know anything about the above mentioned acronyms. Best not to bring up topics of which you aren't trained.

Thoughts from the peanut gallery?

 

[TrafficInSight]

I heard the French only hang weapons on airplanes cause they look better with em----why would France need armed warplanes--what would they use em for?

By the way, I wasn't really surprised that France didn't help us kick Saddam Hussein out of Iraq.....You didn't help us kick the Germans out of France in World War II. Regarding the French, Patton said it best... "I'd rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me"

God I wish you people would take a history class.

 

[SIG600]

Where is he wrong? I know for a fact the French were feeding US intel to Saddam post Gulf War I, during Southern Watch, and OIF.

 

[cessna_driver2]

Yes, but there are plenty of aircraft in the inventory that are older and still in service with no plans to retire. F/A-18 and F-16 still in production, EA-6B around for a while yet as examples.

Side note, I never understood why the "F" designation on the F-117.

Because Fighter pilots do not fly bombers.

Heard it on history channel while watching a 2 hour documentary on the wobbly goblin.

 

[GulfstreamSDL]

Lets see....started with a question about the F-117, and now somehow it has moved into a pissing contest and bashing of Europe.

Way to get bent, guys.

 

[flydaddy0499]

You know guys; we could solve this whole French problem with one division of the Army's finest. They could march on Paris and if history serves as any clue, the "war" would be over in a few hours. Then we could revoke their right to be particularly "French" in the typical manner. This would severely limit our exposure to guys with little johnsons like Fromage. It would also give some of our underutilized National Guard units a chance to hold live fire exercises. We could turn France into a "No Rights" zone for the natives. Make all the women shave all their body hair, free alcohol imported to America, send everyone to "how-to-be-nice" classes, etc. Think about it; the possbilities for plundering, pillaging and general looting are endless. We could sell that stupid painting of the ugly smiling chick (Mona) and replace it with a naked picture of Selma Hayek to make them repay us for lost resources prior to Gulf War II. I think there are some definfite possibilities to us invading and annexing France. I also think the topless beaches on the Riviera are reason enough.

Just a thought.

flydaddy0499

 

[Senior_Citizen]

Prior to retire the F-117 the USAF needs an opertional Stealth bomber, the IOC for the F/A-22 is for 2006, I'm not sure if at that time the the F/A-22 also will be capable as a bomber.

Whatever, Maybe that the guys at Groom Lake have readied a new toy for the USAF.

-sorry by my poor english-

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

No match for the French Stealth bomber in the works....

Yeah, nobody can even see the thing roll over and surrender.

 

[SIG600]

No match for the French Stealth bomber in the works....

Anyone notice that this tool and fromage have almost identical profiles (in form) and that their join dates are only 2 days apart. I'd bet a case of good old fashion Jack Daniels that their IP's are the same. Any mods wanna take a peek? Troll...

 

[Swede]

Fromage is quite fake but this story is true...

ca. 1987. After 5 hours of red tape and phone calls, our 4-ship of F-15's from Lahr is cleared over French Airspace so we can get to a real country (Spain) for a couple of nights of revelry; tinto and octopi. We were scooting along at 0.90 mach, maybe 47,000 feet, just entering French airspace. Getting bored.

The frenchie high controller asks in a thick accent, "Hoser flight, vood yew lakk frunch fahters tu intercept yew?" WTF? Say again? "HOSER, VOOD YEW LAK FRENCH FIGHTERS TO INTERCEPT YEW??!!"

"Yeah send 'em up!"

Lead gives the universal "push it up" hand signal... we keep it subsonic but the machmeter on the hud is about 0.99998. All four radars begin to sweep.

We watched the French air defense launch no less than three alert barns during our overflight. Every one of them botched the intercept, falling off our scopes to the right and left as they tried to struggle up to an admittedly high but subsonic target. We did no maneuvering, stayed on the flight plan the whole way. Each of them would have been an AIM-7 pincushion regardless. We laughed our asses off on the #2 UHF.

Spain was satisfying but painful to the health.

 

[G100F16]

Swede.....

SWEET!

 

[TheRaven]

We watched the French air defense launch no less than three alert barns during our overflight. Every one of them botched the intercept, falling off our scopes to the right and left as they tried to struggle up to an admittedly high but subsonic target. We did no maneuvering, stayed on the flight plan the whole way. Each of them would have been an AIM-7 pincushion regardless. We laughed our asses off on the #2 UHF.

I saw a documentary on development of the F-22.....during development they challenged the F-15 community to send their best pilots and come out and play-----4 F-15s on 1 F-22 and 8 F-15s on 2 F-22s.....the F-22 won both rounds in under 4 minutes. If the French couldn't intercept a current frontline Warplane, I doubt they have anything that could touch the next generation.

That's an awesome story.....I would have pissed my pants laughing at the French as they bumble around the sky while you are straight and level.