Retired guy needs another job

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I just retired from active duty USAF (20 years plus one day). Is it possible for me to apply to/get hired by either a reserve or ANG unit? Is there a double-dipping consideration there as far as collecting retirement check and working for the gov again at the same time? Always looking for options!
 

Mooseflyer

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I know 2 guys who tried but to no avail. I'm not sure if they reached a dead end or if they got sick of trying to get a waiver from God. One now flies for FDX and the other is a sim instructor. Good luck.
 

Purple Haze

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I think I may be one of the two. Either way, here is what I found in 2001:

You CAN serve in the reserve after retirement. For each day of duty you lose one day of retirement pay - but the tradeoff is negligible. Retirement pay is loose change compared to what you make for a reserve day.

The good news is that you continue to accumulate years of service and rank (potentially), which increase your retirement pay.

The tough part is getting hired. You must find a reserve unit that has a slot they are willing to give to a retiree - they don't have to do it. And if they already have a token retired guy, you are out of luck.

The feedback I got from a unit that needed my experience was so encouraging I was confident they were going to hire me. Then 9/11 happened and FedEx called. I did not have a need to follow through. But I have an acquaintance that did, and he got hired. As of 2001, it is do-able. I have not kept up with current options.

Good luck - sell yourself - think networking and marketing
 

Birdstrike

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Have any Army guys successfully done this in an active, ARNG, or USAR unit?
 

B767Inst

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Not trying to dampen your spirits...I tried to get hired by a reserve unit right after they announced the program. Interviewed, got "hired", even completed a flight physical. Spent the next year getting dicked around by the recruiter. Seems the AF kept changing the requirements, IE. manning levels, double billeting, etc. Recruiter gave up. But I do wish you good luck.
 

HoursHore

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Did you check out the Altus Sim instructor job posted on here every 30 days?
 

B767Inst

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BTW.. If you're interested in a ground job, ABX Air is hiring a ground school instructor. Decent pay, benefits, etc.
 

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Purple Haze said:
The tough part is getting hired. You must find a reserve unit that has a slot they are willing to give to a retiree - they don't have to do it. And if they already have a token retired guy, you are out of luck.

The feedback I got from a unit that needed my experience was so encouraging I was confident they were going to hire me. Then 9/11 happened and FedEx called. I did not have a need to follow through. But I have an acquaintance that did, and he got hired. As of 2001, it is do-able. I have not kept up with current options.
Unfortunately since 9/11, the pilot shortage went away.

When it opened up a few years back, we had a couple of retirees thinking about applying to our reserve unit but left a bad impression with our SQ/CC at the time. Too many conditions set forth by the old dudes made the decision easy. It wasn't worth hiring them.

Have you tried LSI? They own the sim contract for SUPT and other Mil training. Location may be a problem though

Good luck
 

Huggyu2

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The pilot shortage went away??? Sounds like an AFPC perspective.

Depends on your community, but in my world, there IS a pilot shortage.
 

talondriver

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Huggyu2 said:
The pilot shortage went away??? Sounds like an AFPC perspective.

Depends on your community, but in my world, there IS a pilot shortage.
It's definitely community dependent. We were told the AF is not short of pilots. We were sweating the last "look" at the bonus by senior leadership.

I heard your world was hurting. I know a guy that was practically forced to interview for a recce position. Needless to say, he's not out there now.
 

PlaneStupid

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How much G5 time do you have. Why not be a contract G5 pilot and make more money and see better places?
 

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"Shaping"?

They may be short of pilots, but they're not short of officers.

"Shaping," "In-Select"? Will they never run out of euphemisms? This is a good ol fashioned RIF of 4,000 officers.

WASHINGTON -- A force shaping board will convene in 2006 and continue to meet annually to properly shape the officer corps to meet emerging Air Force needs.

Instituted by the Air Force, the board will be a regular aspect of force management and development in the future.

Authorized by the Secretary of the Air Force, the board convenes at the Air Force Personnel Center at Randolph Air Force Base in April.

Force shaping efforts started in 2004 and evolved in an effort to meet congressionally mandated fiscal year end strength requirements and maintain a balanced force.

"The force shaping board is another aspect of our force management and development," said Brig. Gen. Glenn F. Spears, Air Force director of force management policy. "We must have a balanced force of officers and enlisted Airmen to meet the missions of today and tomorrow."

The Air Force began fiscal year 2006 with a force imbalance. It was under strength by approximately 6,000 enlisted and over strength by approximately 3,000 officers.

A current excess of nearly 4,000 officers -- primarily from the 2000 to 2004 commissioning years -- make worse the imbalance and has a long-range impact on the effective development of the officer corps and the ability to access sustainable numbers of enlisted Airmen.

Despite an aggressive voluntary force shaping campaign, the Air Force has not achieved the balance of officer to enlisted Airmen through existing voluntary means.

Congress recently gave each service secretary increased authority to proactively manage their junior officer corps through force shaping efforts.
"The Air Force values the service and sacrifice of all Airmen who volunteer to serve, and separating officers is a difficult decision that we do not take lightly," General Spears said. "This first force shaping process will 'select-in' approximately 7,800 line officers commissioned in 2002 and 2003 to continue to serve in our active Air Force."

Eligible officers may continue to apply for voluntary separation until March 1, 2006 using the force shaping initiatives already approved.

Subsequent boards will consider officers commissioned three years earlier. For example, the 2007 board will evaluate officers commissioned in 2004.

"We value the service of all our Airmen," General Spears said. "Voluntary force shaping initiatives, and the force shaping board, are key aspects of our force management and development.

"Our Airmen have many opportunities to serve -- in the Air Force Reserve or Air National Guard, as Air Force civilians or in the Army," the general said. "We encourage Airmen in the affected year groups to pursue those opportunities to continue service to our great nation."

http://www.capflyer.com/issues/5_42/news/2350-1.html
 

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Yes, there is a 0% percent chance of pilots getting the boot from this Force Shaping board. However, I know of 4 pilots, LT's and young Capt's who have Palace Chase'd out of active duty to the guard or reserves in the past 3-4 months.
 
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