Requirements for first solo........

[pgcfii2002]

I am ready to solo a student for the first time, correct me if I am wrong, but they will need:

Endorsement on the back of their Student Pilot Cert (make and model) which is valid for 90 days.

Endorsement in the logbook stating I have given the 61.87 pre solo written.

Endorsement in the logbook (make and model) which is valid for 90 days.

Have I left anything out???

 

[The_Russian]

Don't forget to set their limitations on the endorsement.

Then relax.

 

[pgcfii2002]

Oh yeah.....X wind and headwind limits.

Thanks!

 

[aviator1978]

Endorsement on the Student Pilot Certificate is valid as long as the Certificate is. It is not required to sign it every 90 days.

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

I am ready to solo a student for the first time, correct me if I am wrong, but they will need:

Endorsement in the logbook stating I have given the 61.87 pre solo written.

Are you sure about this one? Where in the Regs does it say you have to give an endorsement for this?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

I am ready to solo a student for the first time, correct me if I am wrong, but they will need:

Endorsement on the back of their Student Pilot Cert (make and model) which is valid for 90 days.

Endorsement in the logbook stating I have given the 61.87 pre solo written.

Endorsement in the logbook (make and model) which is valid for 90 days.

Have I left anything out???

Student Pilot Certificate needs to be endorsed for make and model. This is a one time deal.

The endrosement inside the logbook must be renewed every 90 days.

Make sure you've endorsed each lesson for the required pre-solo maneuvers.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Everything you need to know is right here.

AC 61-65

http://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_G...fc395e0a33862570d0005ea8a2/$FILE/AC61-65E.pdf

 

[Amish RakeFight]

In particular:

12. PRESOLO REQUIREMENTS.
a. [FONT=JFIKGN+TimesNewRomanPSMT,Times New Roman PSMT]The "90-day" solo endorsement that goes in the student pilot’s logbook is required every 90 days for the student to be afforded continuing solo privileges, per section 61.87. [/FONT]​

b.

[FONT=JFIKGN+TimesNewRomanPSMT,Times New Roman PSMT]Although section 61.19(b) establishes, in a pertinent part, that a student pilot certificate expires 24 calendar-months from the month in which it is issued, the endorsements on that student pilot certificate are a matter of record indefinitely. The endorsements are required to be updated from "time-to-time" in the student pilot’s logbook to retain solo privileges. [/FONT]

c. ​

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[FONT=JFIKGN+TimesNewRomanPSMT,Times New Roman PSMT]The following pre-solo requirements must be met: [/FONT]

(1) ​

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[FONT=JFIKGN+TimesNewRomanPSMT,Times New Roman PSMT]Before being authorized to conduct a solo flight, a student pilot must have demonstrated satisfactory aeronautical knowledge by completion of a knowledge test (see § 61.87(b)). Before being authorized to conduct a solo flight, a student pilot must have received and logged the flight training required by sections 61.87(c) and (d) through (m), as appropriate. Satisfactory aeronautical knowledge and an acceptable performance level must have been demonstrated to an authorized instructor, per section 61.87(b). [/FONT]

(2)​

[FONT=JFIKGN+TimesNewRomanPSMT,Times New Roman PSMT]Prior to solo flight, a student pilot is required to have his or her student pilot certificate and logbook endorsed for the specific make and model aircraft to be flown. Thereafter, the student pilot’s logbook must be endorsed every 90 days to retain solo flight privileges. These endorsements must be given by an authorized flight instructor who has flown with the student (per section 61.87(p)). [/FONT]​

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[pilotpat]

Don't forget your inhaler if this is your first ever solo sign off! God, I remember my first student solo. I was standing between the runways at KTUS (pre 9/11). While he was taking off the left side, the F-16's based there were taking off the right side. It was hard to concentrate on my student when the last F-16 got the approval for a max performance departure and unlimited climb to FL200!!

Sounds like you've got your i's dotted and t's crossed. Grab your handheld and enjoy the day. AND don't forget the scissors to cut off his shirt tail!

 

[wrxpilot]

It was hard to concentrate on my student when the last F-16 got the approval for a max performance departure and unlimited climb to FL200!!

Damn, must've been hard for your student to concentrate also!

 

[pilotpat]

Funny thing is he said he didn't notice them taking off when I asked him later. However, when we practiced landings there, it was always odd to hear the Tower say, "N1234, traffic 3 o'clock for parallel runway, pair of F-16's on the overhead". So, basically, the time it took for us to go from midfield downwind to base, they had overflown the runway, turned crosswind, downwind and then we were head to head on base. Quite remarkable to see two F-16's coming right at you!! And THAT was a daily occurance I won't ever forget.

Oh, and then you had Davis-Monthan (sp) a few miles away and you'd have B-2's, A-10's and a plethera of other things called as traffic. Crazy, yet fun all at the same time!!

 

[pgcfii2002]

Actually both my students have solo previously a few years ago so I am not worried. Just want to make sure I have all my legal paperwork in order.

So they basically get in the logbook:

Pre Solo Written 61.87
Solo in make and model
Repeated solo to an airport within 25NM (local airport)
Solo between local airport and another practice airport

 

[nosehair]

Are you sure about this one? Where in the Regs does it say you have to give an endorsement for this?

This is not an actually required endorsement. It is required to administer and correct a pre-solo test(61.87(b), but an endorsement to that fact is not required. It is done as a convienient way of documenting that fact, since the regulations do not actually say what to do with the test.

 

[LewisU_Pilot]

This is not an actually required endorsement. It is required to administer and correct a pre-solo test(61.87(b), but an endorsement to that fact is not required. It is done as a convienient way of documenting that fact, since the regulations do not actually say what to do with the test.

Thank you but I was trying to make him figure that out =) I actually learned this one on the phone with the fsdo while my student was sitting in the plane waiting to solo. I had picked him up from another CFI and he forgot to endorse for his pre solo written.

 

[nosehair]

I had picked him up from another CFI and he forgot to endorse for his pre solo written.

Good point for discussion here. Do you know that the instructor who solo's the student is also responsible to administer and correct the pre-solo test?

61.87(b)(2) The student's authorized instructor must -
(i) Administer the test;and
(ii) at the conclusion of the test, review all incorrect answers with the student before authorizing that student to conduct a solo flight.

So, whoever endorses the student certificate and logbook must also administer and correct the pre-solo test.

If you pick up a student who is about ready to solo, and his previous instructor has administered the presolo test, you are still responsible to do another presolo test, or at least go over the one he has already done and re-sign off on it.

 

[pgcfii2002]

I solo'd my first student this morning!!!!

 

[nosehair]

I solo'd my first student this morning!!!!

Almost as good as your first solo, huh?...

 

[pilotpat]

Ahh...yes...what nice memories. You will probably remember the student's name for years to come. I still know mine and that was "all the way back" in 2001. Congrats!

 

[pgcfii2002]

Almost as good as your first solo, huh?...

I was more excited for him than scared.......it does bring back memories though.