required rest

[matthewjohn]

What are some of your companies required minimum rest lenghts? (ie. you duty off at 2300 what is the ealriest you can show the next day for another trip or to continue the present one?)

 

[pilotyip]

Depends

Depends it a stand up over night, a duty break or a full legal rest period. It would vary

 

[OzBushWhacker]

Care to give details on yours YIP? Interested how you do it considering Part 121 on demand.

Cheers

 

[Shrek]

What are some of your companies required minimum rest lenghts? (ie. you duty off at 2300 what is the ealriest you can show the next day for another trip or to continue the present one?)

Why?...

 

[pilotyip]

Time off has nothing to do with beuing rested

In 121 supplemental, rest is not required as long as a 16 hours duty is not exceeded, or more than 8 hours of flight time in a 24 hour period. So althought it seldom done, a crew can be put into a duty break that is a not a full legal rest period while dropping time from the last 24 hours. We used to this at TranAmerican, back in the 70's to make our lines work out. The rules have nothing to do with being rested. I flew scheduled 121 cargo, I knew my schedule a month in advance. Nightly run BLD-PIT-DAY-MEM-IAH in an L-188. I still flew exhausted. Start 0200 at DAY ended IAH 0900, out of IAH at 1900, into BLD 0600, out of BLD 2300. Then into IAH 0900 again, 6.5 hours of flight time, standup over day, not legal rest, but a duty break, out of IAH 1900. Drop add all night into BLD 0600, out of BLD 2300 repeat again into DAY 0200, release to go home and assume a sleep at night schedule for four days before going back to being up all night. I was always tried with a messed up sleep pattern, but I was 100% legal as approved by the FAR’s and my ALPA contract.

 

[OzBushWhacker]

Still figuring out how to get adequate rest preceeding a 14 HR 135 on-demand duty day. Ah you can't!

 

[pilotyip]

rest?

Still figuring out how to get adequate rest preceeding a 14 HR 135 on-demand duty day. Ah you can't!

You can be legal, but not rested. I see no way to have 24/7 coverage with 100% rested pilots.

 

[OzBushWhacker]

Its amazing to me that the regs (135) haven't been overhauled long ago to incorporate the 'on-call' environment.

 

[matthewjohn]

Any basic times would be great. Also is your rest determined by flight time or duty time? Should there be a difference?