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Rumour has it, Mokulele ( Hawaii's "GO Express") may be wet leasing some Emb-170's from Republic till they can get their crews trained and their own 121 cert. to replace Go.
Since both Go and Republic are ALPA, what is the sentiment?
 

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Rumour has it, Mokulele ( Hawaii's "GO Express") may be wet leasing some Emb-170's from Republic till they can get their crews trained and their own 121 cert. to replace Go.
Since both Go and Republic are ALPA, what is the sentiment?

Aloha was ALPA also. What does ALPA have to do with anything?
 

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Well I think the difference is, Go/AQ was competition (albeit illegal.) But Mesa shifting it's flying over to Mokulele should be a scope violation. It would have been like AQ pulling out of Hawaii and giving all their flying (and leasing Jets to do it) to Island Air when they were an AQ affliate.
 

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Well I think the difference is, Go/AQ was competition (albeit illegal.) But Mesa shifting it's flying over to Mokulele should be a scope violation. It would have been like AQ pulling out of Hawaii and giving all their flying (and leasing Jets to do it) to Island Air when they were an AQ affliate.

I think if Mesa was behind this, the last person Johnny O would recruit is Bryan Bedford. (RJET)

Maybe im wrong but the last I heard these two were like arch enemies.
 

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Rumour has it, Mokulele ( Hawaii's "GO Express") may be wet leasing some Emb-170's from Republic till they can get their crews trained and their own 121 cert. to replace Go.
Since both Go and Republic are ALPA, what is the sentiment?


not wet leasing, these 170s will be flown by Republic pilots on the shuttle america side
 

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You guys crack me up. If Republic ala Mokulele's goal was to bring down go!, then why would they bring 5 EMB 170's? Seriously, if go! can't fill 4, 50 seat airplanes, then how does Mokulele/RAH benefit by a 40 percent load factor even if they are successful in giving go! the 'final push'? If this allegation is true, Mokulele will have even higher losses than go!.

The only possible explanation is that they are going after Hawaiian's market share. Even if go! is gone, that operation can't work. And if it's true that it's a wet lease deal, then RAH has nothing to lose. My question is who is the money behind BB?
 

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I think the perception is that Mokulele can replace Go and also have a code share partner. No one was willing to code share with Go, which is one of the reasons they are doing so poorly. Perhaps they think with a code share they can make a go of inter-island flying (no pun intended).
 

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here we go again

All i hope out of this is that Johnny O gets thrown in jail or ends up jumping out of a window soon. Either one would just bring me all sorts of cheer.

good luck guys. Don't rely on the publics support or the politicians who are all too busy saving their own skins these days. Every man for himself.
 

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Rumour has it, Mokulele ( Hawaii's "GO Express") may be wet leasing some Emb-170's from Republic till they can get their crews trained and their own 121 cert. to replace Go.
Since both Go and Republic are ALPA, what is the sentiment?

Republic is not represented by ALPA. Even if they were, what choice does the pilot group have in this decision?
 

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OK, my mistake, I thought they were ALPA. You're right about it being a tough choice. But one ALPA carrier taking over anothers flying would not be a good thing and it sounds like something JO would think is just fine.
 

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here we go again

All i hope out of this is that Johnny O gets thrown in jail or ends up jumping out of a window soon. Either one would just bring me all sorts of cheer.

good luck guys. Don't rely on the publics support or the politicians who are all too busy saving their own skins these days. Every man for himself.
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OK, my mistake, I thought they were ALPA. You're right about it being a tough choice. But one ALPA carrier taking over anothers flying would not be a good thing and it sounds like something JO would think is just fine.

It wouldn't be a good thing, huh? There isn't an ALPA carrier that wouldn't hesitate to get any new flying from any source. I doubt you'd even get a comment from an either MEC about it going to another ALPA carrier. I'm not knocking the union, but its influence is how a carrier gets new flying just isn't there.
 

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Well I think the difference is, Go/AQ was competition (albeit illegal.) But Mesa shifting it's flying over to Mokulele should be a scope violation. It would have been like AQ pulling out of Hawaii and giving all their flying (and leasing Jets to do it) to Island Air when they were an AQ affliate.


Mesa has scope? haha thats a good one. They don't even have block or better pay yet.
 

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Rumour has it, Mokulele ( Hawaii's "GO Express") may be wet leasing some Emb-170's from Republic till they can get their crews trained and their own 121 cert. to replace Go.
Since both Go and Republic are ALPA, what is the sentiment?

Check you facts. Last time I checked Republic was "Teamsters."
 

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Check you facts. Last time I checked Republic was "Teamsters."

correct, RAH is teamsters. Republic pilots will be flying these planes in Hawaii. We already have a vacancy bid out and a new base announcement. this deal is nothing like the midwest deal.
 

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and also have a code share partner.

About the only company they could partner with is UAL. Is HAL going to give that up? Secondly, with all the drama in the financial markets this week, I'd like to see an airline BOD endeavor in to something like this.
 
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