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Republic and AMR in talks about "large RJs"

TEXAN AVIATOR

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I find it funny we're calling 70-90 seat aircraft "RJ's" these days. There goes hiring at AMR.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...n-discuss-large-regional-jet-contract-376120/


Republic Airways is in talks with American Airlines regarding a capacity purchase agreement for large regional jets, as the mainline carrier restructures its fleet under bankruptcy court protection.
Timothy Dooley, chief financial officer of Republic, says that the regional carrier is cautiously optimistic that they will reach an agreement with American to fly some of the up to 255 large regional jets that are allowed under the carrier's new pilots contract, at the 2012 Dahlman Rose Global Transportation Conference in New York today.
The US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York approved American's motion to reject its pilots contact on 4 September. This allows the carrier to implement its proposed term sheet with the additional regional jets.
"We think last nights ruling is a beneficial one for us," says Dooley. "[Now] we can really start working with American on their future fleet plan as a standalone entity."
American's regional partner American Eagle operates 47 63-seat Bombardier CRJ700s currently. The remainder of its regional jet fleet has 50 seats or less.
The Fort Worth-based Oneworld carrier sees larger regional jets as necessary to compete with its competitors. The aircraft would allow American to optimise capacity on its routes.
Republic would have to acquire new aircraft for a potential American contract. All of its large regional jet fleet is under contract with other carriers currently.
Dooley says that the airline's longest standing relationship is with Embraer but that there are other large regional jets available on the market, on the sidelines of the conference.
American would likely be interested in Embraer 170 or 175 size regional jets, he adds.
 

CrownandCoke

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looking forward to the Republic pilots flying for American and putting more people on the street, just like they did with Lynx.
 

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looking forward to the Republic pilots flying for American and putting more people on the street, just like they did with Lynx.

You must be exhausted.
 

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well now anyone at a regional and most likely anyone at the bottom 20% of a major can now plan on calling a regional their career.
 

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Republic just happens to be getting press on this. I'm sure AMR is shopping around.

All it means is that we are all going to be spending even more time at the regional level. Yaaaaaaaay!
 

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Only took 10 years for the majors like NWA and AA to replace DC-9's and F-100's with E-190's and 175's with guys making 1/3 the pay. Can't wait to see what happens next.
 

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We do not know the terms of the scope. 255 is strikingly close to the number of large RJs allows at DAL.

This may not equate to furloughs or loss of hiring, but may provide new feed in underperforming markets.
 

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We do not know the terms of the scope. 255 is strikingly close to the number of large RJs allows at DAL.

This may not equate to furloughs or loss of hiring, but may provide new feed in underperforming markets.

Didn't the language submitted to the judge say up to 88 seats, and the count must less than the number of aircraft flown by mainline? That essentially guts scope. It may be more seats than that for all we know.
 

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I find it funny we're calling 70-90 seat aircraft "RJ's" these days. There goes hiring at AMR.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...n-discuss-large-regional-jet-contract-376120/


Republic Airways is in talks with American Airlines regarding a capacity purchase agreement for large regional jets, as the mainline carrier restructures its fleet under bankruptcy court protection.
Timothy Dooley, chief financial officer of Republic, says that the regional carrier is cautiously optimistic that they will reach an agreement with American to fly some of the up to 255 large regional jets that are allowed under the carrier's new pilots contract, at the 2012 Dahlman Rose Global Transportation Conference in New York today.
The US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York approved American's motion to reject its pilots contact on 4 September. This allows the carrier to implement its proposed term sheet with the additional regional jets.
"We think last nights ruling is a beneficial one for us," says Dooley. "[Now] we can really start working with American on their future fleet plan as a standalone entity."
American's regional partner American Eagle operates 47 63-seat Bombardier CRJ700s currently. The remainder of its regional jet fleet has 50 seats or less.
The Fort Worth-based Oneworld carrier sees larger regional jets as necessary to compete with its competitors. The aircraft would allow American to optimise capacity on its routes.
Republic would have to acquire new aircraft for a potential American contract. All of its large regional jet fleet is under contract with other carriers currently.
Dooley says that the airline's longest standing relationship is with Embraer but that there are other large regional jets available on the market, on the sidelines of the conference.
American would likely be interested in Embraer 170 or 175 size regional jets, he adds.



Heard a rumor from a very crediable source,

AA won't even consider looking at any regional
that doesn't pay their pilots XCLD pay, or block or better.
 

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Clark, you really think AMR gives a frogs fat a$s what it outsourced pilots are paid?
 

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Heard a rumor from a very crediable source,

AA won't even consider looking at any regional
that doesn't pay their pilots XCLD pay, or block or better.


well I guess OO is in the running then....
 

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Go republic go republic its your birthday its your birthday go republic. It would be nauseating but everyone knows republic pilots are the greatest pilots on earth and deserve everyone else's flying.
 

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Go republic go republic its your birthday its your birthday go republic. It would be nauseating but everyone knows republic pilots are the greatest pilots on earth and deserve everyone else's flying.

they killed Lynx willingly, I bet their pilots would kill AA willingly too.
 

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I find it funny we're calling 70-90 seat aircraft "RJ's" these days. There goes hiring at AMR.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...n-discuss-large-regional-jet-contract-376120/


Republic Airways is in talks with American Airlines regarding a capacity purchase agreement for large regional jets, as the mainline carrier restructures its fleet under bankruptcy court protection.
Timothy Dooley, chief financial officer of Republic, says that the regional carrier is cautiously optimistic that they will reach an agreement with American to fly some of the up to 255 large regional jets that are allowed under the carrier's new pilots contract, at the 2012 Dahlman Rose Global Transportation Conference in New York today.
The US Bankruptcy Court for the Southern District of New York approved American's motion to reject its pilots contact on 4 September. This allows the carrier to implement its proposed term sheet with the additional regional jets.
"We think last nights ruling is a beneficial one for us," says Dooley. "[Now] we can really start working with American on their future fleet plan as a standalone entity."
American's regional partner American Eagle operates 47 63-seat Bombardier CRJ700s currently. The remainder of its regional jet fleet has 50 seats or less.
The Fort Worth-based Oneworld carrier sees larger regional jets as necessary to compete with its competitors. The aircraft would allow American to optimise capacity on its routes.
Republic would have to acquire new aircraft for a potential American contract. All of its large regional jet fleet is under contract with other carriers currently.
Dooley says that the airline's longest standing relationship is with Embraer but that there are other large regional jets available on the market, on the sidelines of the conference.
American would likely be interested in Embraer 170 or 175 size regional jets, he adds.


You have to have money buy new a/c. AA nor any other Mainline will finance them anymore.

"Likely"?? If they were in serious talks with AA there would be no "likely". They either are or are not interested in the E170/175.
 

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You have to have money buy new a/c. AA nor any other Mainline will finance them anymore.

"Likely"?? If they were in serious talks with AA there would be no "likely". They either are or are not interested in the E170/175.

Only airline with $$$ to spend is SkyWest Inc. (SkyWest/ExpressJet) Doubt Republic has the $$$ to go buy the aircraft but who knows what sources of credit are out there.
 
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