Remember AMR's 80 for 80 pins?

[luckytohaveajob]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/am...ardier-regional-jets-2009-12-03?siteid=yhoof2

In the mid 1990's AMR distributed 80/80 Pins. It represented what AMR wanted to do. It wanted Eagle pilots to fly the MD80 for $80k a year.

Looks like AMR did it and the pilots are now silent and gutless to stop it.

 

[XTW]

What does this order have anything to do with the MD80 and/or $80,000/yr?

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[Flyby1206]

Don't feed the troll.

 

[AA717driver]

Gutless? No.

Powerless? Thanks to another f'ed up arbitrator, yes.

TC

 

[waveflyer]

Yes- gutless.

Just where is your line in the sand? Doesn't affect you, right? Those a/c should be flown by mainline and you know it. Simply show up to hdq w/ several thousand resignations and stand up!

But maybe you're a bit too cowardly for that. Much easier to blame the system, than to take responsibility and do something.

But make sure you complain to every liberal you see how this country is falli g apart bc nobody takes responsibility anymore.

You have more power than you think. You just have to sieze it. Seems all of you legacy guys have been unwilling for a decade.

 

[INIT REF]

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/am...ardier-regional-jets-2009-12-03?siteid=yhoof2

In the mid 1990's AMR distributed 80/80 Pins. It represented what AMR wanted to do. It wanted Eagle pilots to fly the MD80 for $80k a year.

Looks like AMR did it and the pilots are now silent and gutless to stop it.

For the record, AMR did not make those pins/stickers. An American Eagle pilot did. I know. I was there.

Also for the record, very few Eagle pilots supported the campaign. Even then most realized that they would be cutting their own throats.

Keep mainline planes at the mainline. Otherwise none of us have a future.

 

[rider850]

Sad to say, Mainline won't be flying those airplanes and those of us on furlough won't either.

 

[aa73]

Init ref, spot on. Thx.
73

 

[Colonel Savage]

Almost 60 Billion in CRJ's sold since inception.

 

[Mike man]

What other pins can we think of...

S340's for $3.40

I thought they were MD88's? WTF

 

[get2flyin]

Old news. Besides, they already have twenty something -700's right? These new ones will have a first class section, so fewer than the current 70 seats. Hell, a big ATR has 66 seats. If they start flying the C-Series with 100-149 seats, you can start to freak out. Until then...relax, man.

 

[Snapperhead]

What other pins can we think of...

S340's for $3.40

I thought they were MD88's? WTF

Sorry, you thought wrong. Delta flies -88s and -90s; American flies DC-9-80s (and maybe some ex-TWA -83s).

 

[get2flyin]

Sorry, you thought wrong. Delta flies -88s and -90s; American flies DC-9-80s (and maybe some ex-TWA -83s).

Not just any -80. They have the SUPER 80. Sweeeeeet.

 

[Bringupthebird]

Yes- gutless.

Just where is your line in the sand? Doesn't affect you, right? Those a/c should be flown by mainline and you know it. Simply show up to hdq w/ several thousand resignations and stand up!

But maybe you're a bit too cowardly for that. Much easier to blame the system, than to take responsibility and do something.

But make sure you complain to every liberal you see how this country is falli g apart bc nobody takes responsibility anymore.

You have more power than you think. You just have to sieze it. Seems all of you legacy guys have been unwilling for a decade.

375 Midwest pilots effectively did that by refusing to work for substandard wages. What has that gotten them? Is there an ALPA assessment to help them? Here's an article
http://milwaukee.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/stories/2008/10/20/story2.html?q=Midwest Airlines pilots

I would guess there are about 10,000 furloughed pilots in the US. You think that the legacy pilos you have such disdain for have the leverage to play a game of brinksmanship with management? Especially when you're dealing with management that has no interest in whether or not the airline continues to operate; they'll get a job with some other unrelated corporation.

Then somebody will dredge up a venture capitalist to fund their great airline idea that will succeed where others have failed because they won't be saddled with high labor costs, etc, etc, etc.

Battles are fought to win, not for practice.

 

[waveflyer]

And as this thread points out... What would you do if AMR decided to replace and outsource all the -80's w/ C100's. Would you have the same attitude?

To outsource jet flying while furloughing should have been your line in the sand. I don't have a disdain for you- I don't care about you- but I recognize weakness when it's obvious and so does your management. Divide and conquer- chip away, chip away. It'll stop when you stop it.

Personally, Id settle for pilots realizing that republican's want to f^ck us and stop voting for the pricks. Maybe then we wouldn't have judges circumventing contract through the BK process (or in your case- the threat of it) and we'd have the political will at the NMB to get things done. Democrats can be frustrating, but in the end - my mortgage is a LOT easier to pay w/ them at the reigns. Yes, I said it. I'd rather be taxed at 38% of $170k than 32% of a $90k.... Call me crazy