Regionals with Mil time conversions?

[FlyIllini]

I'm a guard copilot nearing the end of an activation; waiting around for the A code plus 1000 hrs isn't feasable with a wife and kid, so I'm looking into regionals... Do regionals apply conversion factors for military time? If so, who?

Sorry if this has been previously addressed.. Tried a search & couldn't find anything.. Thanks for the help!!

 

[MarineGrunt]

Not that I know of. I have heard of some people getting hired below mins before, but I can't confirm a particular case. If you have at least 1000hrs, you meet the mins for almost every regional out there. Your military time will make you very competative. I don't think another 200hrs or so from a conversion should make much difference. If you have the mins, you have a great shot.

Best of luck!

 

[Willy21]

ASA is a no. I tried to get a friend of mine through with 700 jet 250 pic jet with only 1100 tt. They said no way. Call us when he has 1200 tt min. I asked about conversion time and they said no conversions. I don't understand, but we will hire 300 hr FSI people.

 

[MarineGrunt]

ASA's mins are 600tt now. They aren't hiring at the moment but are supposed to resume soon...

 

[indianboy7]

ASA is a no. I tried to get a friend of mine through with 700 jet 250 pic jet with only 1100 tt. They said no way. Call us when he has 1200 tt min. I asked about conversion time and they said no conversions. I don't understand, but we will hire 300 hr FSI people.

Makes a lot of sense doesn't it??

 

[Willy21]

ASA's mins are 600tt now. They aren't hiring at the moment but are supposed to resume soon...

At one time the were 600tt but you had to have some inside connections. I think the average Joe needs around 1200tt to be looked at. That was last summer when we were hurting for guys. As of this moment we are a little fat. The latest out of ATL says we will be brining people on due to attrition late spring into summer. There are people in the pool that have been swimming for awhile, I think since last fall. They are still phone screening people. It is slow at the moment but things change daily. Best of luck .

 

[Lequip]

I'm a guard copilot nearing the end of an activation; waiting around for the A code plus 1000 hrs isn't feasable with a wife and kid, so I'm looking into regionals... Do regionals apply conversion factors for military time? If so, who?

Sorry if this has been previously addressed.. Tried a search & couldn't find anything.. Thanks for the help!!

LOL. There is a good one! As long as you are willing to whore yourself out for chump new hire wages, the regionals will welcome you with open arms.

 

[flyer172r]

Makes a lot of sense doesn't it??

Man, when this industry starts making sense, we'll have to shut down operations because of all the pigs and cows that have magically started flying.

 

[BODENE]

There are some that take the conversion. If your military time is all rotor, WSO, RIO, they may discount all that time. I would send in the resume anyway and see what kind of responses you will get. Good Luck!!!

 

[FN FAL]

Makes a lot of sense doesn't it??

It does make sense, the guy doesn't have any PIC time and said so right up front.

 

[indianboy7]

It does make sense, the guy doesn't have any PIC time and said so right up front.

Neither do the 300TT FSI people....hell they might only have about 100 PIC......much less than 250 JET PIC.....see the difference????

oh ya, they wouldn't touch him either without 1200 hours TT ...while the FSI guy got the job with 300 TT.....now does it make sense???

 

[FN FAL]

Neither do the 300TT FSI people....hell they might only have about 100 PIC......much less than 250 JET PIC.....see the difference????

oh ya, they wouldn't touch him either without 1200 hours TT ...while the FSI guy got the job with 300 TT.....now does it make sense???

true.

What is the deal with military conversion of flight time? Isn't there a ratio?

Assume for a moment that both the FSI grad and the military grad had about the same amount of aircraft commander time or pic or whatever. By the time you got done doing the conversion on the military guys command time, it would be less than the FSI grad's PIC. That's one way of looking at it.

But I do see your point. I wouldn't want to be riding in the back of a civilian jet airliner if the captain keeled over when an engine fire bell caused him to have a heart attack and the IOE new hire has only 300 TT. I'd rather have the 1200 hour military time guy up there as FO, but I don't make the rules...I just make fun of them.

 

[BODENE]

For military time you add .4 to all your flights. You can take your Form 70 and go through this and rebuild your civilian logbook. The only hard part I found was trying to complete cross country time for a rating. Some flight are point to point and hard to calculate the 50nm requirement. There are some services out there that will help you convert your time to a civilian equivalent. Good Luck!!

 

[indianboy7]

true.

But I do see your point. I wouldn't want to be riding in the back of a civilian jet airliner if the captain keeled over when an engine fire bell caused him to have a heart attack and the IOE new hire has only 300 TT. I'd rather have the 1200 hour military time guy up there as FO, but I don't make the rules...I just make fun of them.

It doesn't have to be that bad for it to be unsafe..........if one pilot in that scenario isn't 100% on his game, then the other one has to make up for it. If the one at 90% is the captain, and the FO is already at 100% saturation, that 10% is left for error......

With all that aside, homeboy in the military has been bustin' his ass for our country flying heavy equipment in hostile and nasty conditions. Our 300 hour wonder plops down 20 grand to get an interview.........The military guy has a lot more situational awareness and ability to think on his feet. The FSI guy is still thinking about what happened 10 minutes ago, when he should be thinking about how many beers he's gonna have at the hotel bar......