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PilotOnTheRise

PilotOnTheRise

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This has probably been asked many times, but I didn't find any real answers in my search. What is upgrade time currently running with the regionals? 3-4yrs? I realize it is not the same for all, but the majority, or on average....?

Just curious.
 
Doesn't matter...because what it is now isn't going to be anything close to what it will be when you upgrade. Its constantly changing. Its like using this week's sports section to find out next week's scores.
 
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LOL, thanks. I see what your saying. Im not even on as a FO yet, that will be still a couple of years away, much less looking to when I will be captain. It is more of a curious question than anything else.

-Chris
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't go to someplace based on quick upgrade. It won't be there when you get there. Go some where that you can have good QOL. That's the most important thing in this job.
 
1.5 to RJ ca in Ord, and 1 yr ish for EMB ca in FAT.

SkyWest

Mookie
 
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Mookie said:
1.5 to RJ ca in Ord, and 1 yr ish for EMB ca in FAT.

SkyWest

Mookie
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However true that may be, it's still an odoriferous practice for Skywest to not pay newhires during training (2+ months) and force them to pay for initial Jepps and uniforms...

Rant over...

We now return to your regularly scheduled programming.

HMM
 
i would tell ya..............but then I'd have ta kill ya.......................................Oh Yea, and plus you're a Saints fan, LOL.
 
Go easy on the Aint's. Man we need Bum Phillips again.


Jobear
Loathe to admit, YES I are a Aint's FAN!!
 
runfast said:
awac......a very, very, very long time..
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Unless of course you have been here for 2 years or less in which case it may become a very much more reasonable amount of time given our current attrition. However for newhires I would estimate somewhere between 4-6 years. But the pay and QOL you will enjoy in that time is superior to almost all other regionals.
 
If you had the 2500 hrs you could have been a captain at CHQ/SA/REP on the E170 out of FO IOE. One of the recent slots went unfilled because no one who was qualified bid it.

My suspicion is that will change once the dust settles a little from the MA/SA dynamic. There is also the risk of bidding for a SA 170 position and watching that position stagnate in your base while the REP 170 gets huge or some combination thereof that has left some E145 CA a little wary and more than willing to hang back and watch for a few months.

Before that, I think the junior captain on the E170 was 1 yr 4 months.

W8N
 
W8N4UAL said:
If you had the 2500 hrs you could have been a captain at CHQ/SA/REP on the E170 out of FO IOE. One of the recent slots went unfilled because no one who was qualified bid it.

My suspicion is that will change once the dust settles a little from the MA/SA dynamic. There is also the risk of bidding for a SA 170 position and watching that position stagnate in your base while the REP 170 gets huge or some combination thereof that has left some E145 CA a little wary and more than willing to hang back and watch for a few months.

Before that, I think the junior captain on the E170 was 1 yr 4 months.

W8N
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I don't think that's completely true. Don't you have to be employed for at least 6 months at CHQ/REP/SA prior to upgrading even with the 2500 hours? I know a captain spot in CMH did go unfilled, however, at Republic.
 
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When you ask about regional upgrade time. Only one thing is for certain. You'll be stuck in a rut for a while.
 
CHQ says

A friend of mine is in training at CHQ for the 145, and they are telling the new hires 18 - 24 months upgrade time. Who knows what it will really be.:cool:

- Motor cut. Forced landing. Hit cow. Cow died. Scared me.
D.S.
 
When I was hired at Mesaba, upgrades came at 18-24 months. Took me nearly 6 years. Now, it is around 4 years. Always changing.......
 
Ask yourself..."If I do something stupid and I can't move on to another company could I potentailly retire here?" QOL, for me, is a big factor. It could be 6+ years to upgrade and then the company might retire a portion of your fleet and move all of your bases on the other side of country and then upgrade might be a long time. But then, people might start quiting at like 30+ a month and it might come back down again. That coupled with any growth oppurtunities, might bring a quicker upgrade back. One big hairy crap shoot! Just be patient it will eventially come time to upgrade.
 
SkyBoy1981 said:
Doesn't matter...because what it is now isn't going to be anything close to what it will be when you upgrade. Its constantly changing. Its like using this week's sports section to find out next week's scores.
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That is probably the most accurate thing ever said.

Here's a good example. Continental Express is hiring 60 a month! Upgrades are running 6 months on the props and 18 months on the jet. 175 additional jets are on firm order, so the growth will boom for years to come. There is also a flow through to mainline so you will be in a 737 in 5 years! Get your apps in quick! (this was in 2001)

Off to Houston you go. You meet Gordon Bethune who welcomes your entire new hire class to Continental Airlines (not express), and preceeds to confirm everthing that was said above.

9/11 happens and your furloughed. A couple of years come and go, and finally you get recalled. This time it's different. There are no promises, there is no Gordon Bethune. Only a guy called Jim Ream and some new company called ExpressJet. Oh, and those upgrades look like 5 years now. The flow though is gone.

Well not all is bad, it's still a great company, but it is nothing like the way it was originally sold to you. Things change very fast in this industry. One thing I've learned is you can't predict the future.

Last weeks Eastern, was yesterdays Delta, which is todays Southwest.
 
Last weeks Eastern, was yesterdays Delta, which is todays Southwest.

oooh I like that one!

In the 1970s pilots fought for positions at Eastern, Braniff, Pan-Am

In the 1990s pilots fought for positions at United, Delta, US Airways, etc.

In the 2000s pilots are fighting for positions at Southwest, Jetblue, and AirTran

Who will we be fighting for in 2010?
 

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