Ramp errors take down three Skywest CRJ's in November

[resetjet]

http://www.flightglobal.com/article...take-down-three-skywest-crjs-in-november.html

 

[flyboyzz1]

If they only had a union this wouldn't have happened

 

[Baronman]

Looks like 2 of the 3 could had no APU. Nice. Fix your planes.

 

[spudskier]

was gonna say, maybe if they'd fix a few APUs, this type of stuff wouldn't happen... same problem at ASa.

 

[ehaecker]

Anybody with any balls should refuse a plane with no APU:
1.) Hot summer days
2.) During the winter when anti-ice is required for T/O or landing.

That would go a long way towards solving the problem.

The CRJ200 is NOT meant to be operated with no APU in less than perfect conditions.

 

[Raoul Duke]

give me a break, these are purely ground handling issues. Sounds like some rampers need to get fired.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Anybody with any balls should refuse a plane with no APU:
1.) Hot summer days
2.) During the winter when anti-ice is required for T/O or landing.

That would go a long way towards solving the problem.

The CRJ200 is NOT meant to be operated with no APU in less than perfect conditions.

2 of the 3 A/C were 700's...

 

[GOULET!]

That's what you get for $8/hr.

 

[ePilot22]

2 of the 3 A/C were 700's...

Close.

N614SK is a CRJ-700.

N709BR is a CRJ-200.

N454SW is a CRJ-200.

Odds are 2 of the 3 A/C were 200's.





eP.

 

[comrcap]

We had a gate agent smack a 900 with the jetway in MEM. Ripped a hole in it! They said "That jetway never did work right" Duh, why use it?

 

[10nCLR]

give me a break, these are purely ground handling issues. Sounds like some rampers need to get fired.

Exactly, sounds like some MAINLINE rampers need to get fired.

N614SK in SLC = Delta

N709BR in ORD = United

 

[IBNAV8R]

Pittsburgh also handled by all three respective mainlines.

Conclusions:

-200s are dangerous - causing 2 of 3 accidents

ops with no APU are also dangerous - causing 2 of 3 accidents

mainline handling is dangerous - causing 100% of accidents

 

[Nevets]

Pittsburgh also handled by all three respective mainlines.

Conclusions:

-200s are dangerous - causing 2 of 3 accidents

ops with no APU are also dangerous - causing 2 of 3 accidents

mainline handling is dangerous - causing 100% of accidents

Just dont operate -200s with inop APUs at mainline stations and problem solved!

 

[wmuflyguy]

Fancy driverless pickup trucks...

On 2 November a driverless pickup truck being operated by United Airlines ground crews caused damage to a SkyWest CRJ200 at the Chicago O'Hare international airport.
According to the NTSB's preliminary report, Flight 1020 (N709BR), with 34 passengers and three crew bound for Moline, Illinois, had pushed back from the gate at 10:27 am CDT and moved out of the immediate area to allow an inbound aircraft to access the gate when the incident occurred. There were no injuries.
"As the airplane began to move the flight crew saw the pickup truck moving on the ramp, so they stopped the airplane," says the NTSB. "The Ford Ranger pickup truck backed into the left side of the nose of the plane."
The driver told the NTSB that he had left the vehicle on the ramp with the engine running. "When he returned to where he left the vehicle, it was gone," the driver told investigators.

 

[AbOvo]

A driverless Ford Ranger also damaged an airplane in the 440 range back when it was brand new (less than 100 hours TT). Ramper pulled up to the service door and got out with the truck in R instead of P. Truck subsequently backed itself up around the wing and jammed itself backwards under the tail section. It crushed the cab and looked like the Ranger was trying to carry an RJ in it's bed. Ridiculous amount of damage to the aircraft, it still has a bunch of doublers on the tail section.

 

[kngarthur]

That's what you get for $8/hr.

So it's the pilot's fault?

 

[ATR Pirate]

Looks like 2 of the 3 could had no APU. Nice. Fix your planes.

hey genius

every airline in the USA operates a few aircraft with out an APU every single day of the week without problems..yes it is easier with a working APU..but this is clearly ground ops problem..don't say stupid things