RAH Street Captain rumor

[TAWS]

Apparently, there are rumors of street captain positions being offered at RAH. These rumors are mostly coming from MESA guys, who "have a friend, who interviewed there and was offered a street captain position".
It might have skipped your attention that this won't happen at RAH for a very long time, if ever - you see, unlike Pinnacle or Big Sky, we have more than enough candidates who qualify. So if your "buddy" is offered a position like this, tell him/her that they will go to training as an FO, not captain - so they should probably reconsider resigning their present job.

Have a nice day ladies!

 

[rogerwilcoout]

Apparently, there are rumors of street captain positions being offered at RAH. These rumors are mostly coming from MESA guys, who "have a friend, who interviewed there and was offered a street captain position".
It might have skipped your attention that this won't happen at RAH for a very long time, if ever - you see, unlike Pinnacle or Big Sky, we have more than enough candidates who qualify. So if your "buddy" is offered a position like this, tell him/her that they will go to training as an FO, not captain - so they should probably reconsider resigning their present job.

Have a nice day ladies!

Yeah right. Man you guys are too easy ! Naive ! lol

 

[Pilot124]

J4J guys is a possiblity, but no street captains. We have plenty of qualified people here. These rumors surface every now and again. Completely untrue!!!!!
Have a nice day ladies...

 

[PA31Ho]

Lets see, in 6 months, nobody off the street has been trained as a Captain or even given a PIC type except for the J4J guys.

But dozens have claimed to be hired as street captains on the CRJ or 170.

It's all BS.

Not BS.... J4J - not sure bout them... but I do know that they are giving CA positions from day 1 to selected few

 

[ilinipilot]

If thats the case then back it up with initals and DOH, and someone on the seniority list can look it up. Come on step up

 

[TAWS]

The ONLY street captains allowed are Chief Pilots (except J4J), but they aren't in a hurry to hire any, as they don't want to spend the money. Catch 22.

They will offer guys anything at an interview - they have done it before. If this were to really happen there would be a sick-out that would negate the cost savings of such a move (for the company) in about 1 hour or less. They know it, we know it.

 

[PA31Ho]

No I will not release a name especially on here. I'm not going to scew my bud over just so I can say I told you so. But they way they are getting around it is hiring right into the training department as sim instructor. So technically it's not a "street captain", but still gets the PIC type and will be flying left seat with a training captain for a few months or whatever.

 

[TAWS]

You must think we're morons! FSI do the instructing, OUR CK Airmen do the CK rides - no-one else!

If you're going to flame, get your facts straight first! CK Airmen here only do PCs and the CK rides in the sim. RAH is not going to pay for these guys to sit in the sim and do training - it's cheaper to use FSI.

Myth BUSTED!!!!

 

[TAWS]

One more thing, this company can't free up anyone to do anything that isn't absolutely necessary, let alone have a CK Airman ride around with a new guy for "a couple of months".

Thanks for playing.

 

[hockeypilot44]

You must think we're morons! FSI do the instructing, OUR CK Airmen do the CK rides - no-one else!

If you're going to flame, get your facts straight first! CK Airmen here only do PCs and the CK rides in the sim. RAH is not going to pay for these guys to sit in the sim and do training - it's cheaper to use FSI.

Myth BUSTED!!!!

We have at least one check airman on the Chautauqua side who was hired as a management check airman. His initials are R.J. He is not on the seniority list, but is considered a captain without the ability to bid a line. He only flies the line to stay current and spends the rest of his time giving checkrides and proficiency checks. He might be allowed to give I.O.E. I am not sure about this one. I would in no way call him a street captain, but he is the closest thing to it. I am not sure if there are other pilots like him or not. It would not surprise me if Chautauqua hired more though.

 

[siucavflight]

Eagle is hiring street CAs

 

[TAWS]

HockeyPilot,

We don't have any of those over at Shuttle, or at Republic (to the best of my knowledge). Given the present mood on the 170 side, it would be a bad move, if mngt pulled this on us now - they have zero reserves available almost every day and can not afford to piss us off further.
Besides, I heard that they are making more CK Airmen (from the existing list) on the Shuttle side.

 

[Edge540]

These street captain rumors are baseless. They have been going around for some time now, but there has not been a single confirmed case.

 

[PA31Ho]

We have at least one check airman on the Chautauqua side who was hired as a management check airman. His initials are R.J. He is not on the seniority list, but is considered a captain without the ability to bid a line. He only flies the line to stay current and spends the rest of his time giving checkrides and proficiency checks. He might be allowed to give I.O.E. I am not sure about this one. I would in no way call him a street captain, but he is the closest thing to it. I am not sure if there are other pilots like him or not. It would not surprise me if Chautauqua hired more though.

Exact same thing that Republic is doing.

They are going to be doing their own checkrides, they want FSI out of it. You will see.

 

[TAWS]

Exact same thing that Republic is doing.

They are going to be doing their own checkrides, they want FSI out of it. You will see.

So what you're saying is that they are going to take a CRJ captain, make him/her a 170 captain and expect them to produce better results than FSI?

FSI has plenty of problems, but they are experienced and can easily tweak their program. I don't see it happening, unless ALL they do is sim work. If they aren't on the seniority list, they wouldn't be covered by the CBA, therefor their pay for doing 170 training would be waaayyyyyyyyyy below what our average captains/CK Airmen earn.

Case in point: S5 is looking for a new CP, but all the position pays is $50K. (approx).
Who is going to put up with all that crap for less than they can earn in the left seat of almost any regional out there today?
I doubt "training captains" are going to be paid more than a CP.

 

[mokitty]

We have at least one check airman on the Chautauqua side who was hired as a management check airman. His initials are R.J. He is not on the seniority list, but is considered a captain without the ability to bid a line. He only flies the line to stay current and spends the rest of his time giving checkrides and proficiency checks. He might be allowed to give I.O.E. I am not sure about this one. I would in no way call him a street captain, but he is the closest thing to it. I am not sure if there are other pilots like him or not. It would not surprise me if Chautauqua hired more though.

Check your seniority list. When I left a year ago he was on it, hired in 6/03. He was hired as a sim checkairman and conducted new hire checkrides and recurrent PCs. He did not do type rides, or IOE (as of a year ago). This caused a bit of heartache at the time because up to that point, checkairman were promoted from within the ranks of line pilots. He flew the line as a captain for currency (and not very well from what I heard) and as outlined for management pilots per the CBA. He is a management pilot, but does have a seniority number just like BW and CM.

 

[PA31Ho]

Case in point: S5 is looking for a new CP, but all the position pays is $50K. (approx).

Yep, pay was about that first year...

Who is going to put up with all that crap for less than they can earn in the left seat of almost any regional out there today?

Well, I would consider that one hell of an offer. First year F/O pay or that pay for sim instructor w/ a PIC type? Apparently it is a new thing RW is going to try out.

 

[kiteflyer]

We have at least one check airman on the Chautauqua side who was hired as a management check airman. His initials are R.J. He is not on the seniority list, but is considered a captain without the ability to bid a line. He only flies the line to stay current and spends the rest of his time giving checkrides and proficiency checks. He might be allowed to give I.O.E. I am not sure about this one. I would in no way call him a street captain, but he is the closest thing to it. I am not sure if there are other pilots like him or not. It would not surprise me if Chautauqua hired more though.

Did R.J. ever have any experiece at XJ??