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This is the motto of every bid RAH wins.

Well, except for the Continental bid where they were more expensive than some other bidders, and yet still won.
 
Mountain flying is a learned art and we are gaining that knowledge daily.

Mountain flying is not a "learned art." Mountain flying is operational and intellectual discipline.
 
Pretending you have some semblance to a big airline is living in denial and you'll always get dissappointed when reality slaps you up the side of your head.

That's pretty irognic coming from a Frontier pilot.
 
XJT not so much? You ever fly your 170 around Mexico at night in IMC in thunderstorms dealing with Mexican controllers? We do plenty of mountain flying down south. Nothing like being cleared for the VOR DME arch approach 50 miles out into Toluca with 9000ft mountains on all sides.
 
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ERJFO,

RAH has pilots with plenty of experience west of the Mississipi! Newsflash: Whilst Horizon has an extremely experienced and capable group of mountain flyers, so has SkyWest, so has ASA, XJT not so much. We know our limitations and I have yet to fly with a capt that pushes the envelope. Our new capts (145fo to 170ca) are a cautious bunch and not likely to say "watch this". Mountain flying is a learned art and we are gaining that knowledge daily.

You should spend your time reading up on 135 regs(for your new adventure), instead of playing "sore loser" on FI.


XJT does ALOT of Mountain Flying!! MEXICO is almost all mountain flying and it is very unforgiving flying. Flying in the mountains in the USA has nothing on Mexico.
 
Actually kids my line about mountain flying was to point out that I don't feel the company supports us properly; my bros and sisters flying at s5 unfortunately have had to learn it mostly on their own. And for the record we do have guys doing Mexico in night IMC (or did, not sure if shuttle still has Mazatlan or not).

For you holier-than-thou types: which ERJ operator came within 300 feet of a hilltop in Mexico City and then wrote up the GPWS for erroneous warnings?
 
Actually kids my line about mountain flying was to point out that I don't feel the company supports us properly; my bros and sisters flying at s5 unfortunately have had to learn it mostly on their own. And for the record we do have guys doing Mexico in night IMC (or did, not sure if shuttle still has Mazatlan or not).

For you holier-than-thou types: which ERJ operator came within 300 feet of a hilltop in Mexico City and then wrote up the GPWS for erroneous warnings?

Mountain flying is not that hard (I speak from experience). I don't think I need a company to "teach me" how to mountain fly. Just follow the dp, and be aware of your surroundings. period.
 
These guys preaching their mountain flying prowess (Erjfo), are the same ones that use the "I fly jets" pickup line. Get over yourselves. RAH crews are just as safe as any other regional. You are no better than the rest of us.
 
These guys preaching their mountain flying prowess (Erjfo), are the same ones that use the "I fly jets" pickup line. Get over yourselves. RAH crews are just as safe as any other regional. You are no better than the rest of us.

First of all, I don't use that pickup line... Pure facts there. Comparing the destinations XJT goes to over RAH destinations it's easy to see who's more experienced, but that wasn't the point of my comment. I was trying to debunk a statement someone else made about how great RAH's mountain flying is, complete with photocopies.
 
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Yudso[/color];1217382]These guys preaching their mountain flying prowess (Erjfo), are the same ones that use the "I fly jets" pickup line. Get over yourselves. RAH crews are just as safe as any other regional. You are no better than the rest of us.

Honestly Who Gives a shizzle? Your airline is better than mine, mine is better than yours, BLAH BLAH BLAH THERE we are finished!!

Fly Safe :beer:
 
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Only one way to settle this. Who hits a mountain first??? Oh... wait... A major already did that in Latin America.....


We can, in fact, all be professionals and do our jobs. SA is the key when it comes to operating in and around mountains. Easy enough. Just have a decent idea of what altitude constitutes "safe reading altitude" and everyone will be fine.

For the record, flying in and out of Denver is mountain flying about like kissing your kid sister is getting some. Try VOR approaches into La Paz at night in WX if you wanna get a taste for mountains crawling up your butt. Flying freight was nothing if not interesting. Even still, we managed not to hit anything... not that hard, just requires a bit of preparation.

Nonetheless, you kids be safe out west. And I mean that in the sincerest way possible.
 
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Only one way to settle this. Who hits a mountain first??? Oh... wait... A major already did that in Latin America.....


We can, in fact, all be professionals and do our jobs. SA is the key when it comes to operating in and around mountains. Easy enough. Just have a decent idea of what altitude constitutes "safe reading altitude" and everyone will be fine.

For the record, flying in and out of Denver is mountain flying about like kissing your kid sister is getting some. Try VOR approaches into La Paz at night in WX if you wanna get a taste for mountains crawling up your butt. Flying freight was nothing if not interesting. Even still, we managed not to hit anything... not that hard, just requires a bit of preparation.

Nonetheless, you kids be safe out west. And I mean that in the sincerest way possible.

What I was thinking. Good point!
 

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