Quick question

[PilotChapin]

Have you guys ever heard of a pilot leaving out a previous employer in a application and then getting in trouble for it?

 

[rtmcfi]

yes..

 

[imacdog]

Actually I have, it happened at a small 135 company I flew for - the guy nearly got fired for (as it turned out) leaving some information regarding a previous employer out of his application.

 

[PilotChapin]

Actually I have, it happened at a small 135 company I flew for - the guy nearly got fired for (as it turned out) leaving some information regarding a previous employer out of his application.

How do they find out? is it through the PRIA paper work? The reason why I asked is b/c I recently talked to an ex-co worker that flew at a regional and he got on with Chataqua recently and eventhough he did not leave out that previous employment on the paperwork he did "add" 2 months of employment. For example he got on that previous employer in july of 2004 and quit september 2004. But his app said he left november 2004. I told him that he can get in trouble, but since he hasnt gotten in trouble in the past for this he did it again.

 

[Flybet3]

How do they find out? is it through the PRIA paper work? The reason why I asked is b/c I recently talked to an ex-co worker that flew at a regional and he got on with Chataqua recently and eventhough he did not leave out that previous employment on the paperwork he did "add" 2 months of employment. For example he got on that previous employer in july of 2004 and quit september 2004. But his app said he left november 2004. I told him that he can get in trouble, but since he hasnt gotten in trouble in the past for this he did it again.

I believe it is through pria paperwork. Anyone can correct me if they wish. On the other hand, I've known a few people that have done it and have even pencil wipped 100 extra hours in their books and they havent been "busted" yet. I'm not saying it's right but i am sure that there are a lot of folks out there that will pencil wipp 50 extra seminol hours to get a regional interview or pencil wip an extra 50 jet hours to meet an insurance requirement. It does happen. Just make sure that if you do lie in your log book you keep it within reason, dont log 100 of 737 time with no type or right seat in a 152. Once again, I dont think it's right. But people do do it

 

[Flybet3]

Anyone else care to chime in?

 

[fried chickens]

How do they find out? is it through the PRIA paper work? The reason why I asked is b/c I recently talked to an ex-co worker that flew at a regional and he got on with Chataqua recently and eventhough he did not leave out that previous employment on the paperwork he did "add" 2 months of employment. For example he got on that previous employer in july of 2004 and quit september 2004. But his app said he left november 2004. I told him that he can get in trouble, but since he hasnt gotten in trouble in the past for this he did it again.

Why did he do that?

 

[PilotChapin]

Why did he do that?

Apparently so it didnt seem like he left right after IOE.

 

[HoserASA]

Happened at ASA when a pilot was hired but neglected to show his employment at Eastern as a scab. His name was on the scab list, and someone turned him in. He was dismissed.

Hoser

 

[Flybet3]

Happened at ASA when a pilot was hired but neglected to show his employment at Eastern as a scab. His name was on the scab list, and someone turned him in. He was dismissed.

Hoser

I personally would find out who turned me in and put his head under the main landing gear for being a pu$$y a$$ snitch. But that's just me.

 

[~~~^~~~]

Yes, and several ways to get caught. FAA Check Ride that shows up in their pilot records with reference to the employer, PRIA, credit report, busy body pilot with a big mouth, etc.... In the "information age" there are no secrets.

Turn it into an "I learned from that..." story with a positive spin.

 

[Jungle Prop]

I'm not saying you should, but I don't see how they could find out. If its only a few months time and you can verify through a reference where you were. You didn't take an FAA checkride, say only a company pro-check. Credit report has nothing to do with previous employment. PRIA only deals with companies you listed and then only very specific parameters. This is assuming like mentioned you don't log the time in your logbook and can't explain it.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Please, please. This is for his FRIEND.

 

[SlapShot]

Aviation is a small industry. Everyone knows someone. Therefore people find out just about everything.

 

[fly4ever]

"Just make sure that if you do lie in your log book you keep it within reason"


It is NEVER reasonable to lie about your experience.

 

[Flybet3]

"Just make sure that if you do lie in your log book you keep it within reason"


It is NEVER reasonable to lie about your experience.

Well duuuuuuuhhhhhh

 

[Flybet3]

Aviation is a small industry. Everyone knows someone. Therefore people find out just about everything.

I concur

 

[Flybet3]

I'm not saying you should, but I don't see how they could find out. If its only a few months time and you can verify through a reference where you were. You didn't take an FAA checkride, say only a company pro-check. Credit report has nothing to do with previous employment. PRIA only deals with companies you listed and then only very specific parameters. This is assuming like mentioned you don't log the time in your logbook and can't explain it.

I concur with this too. The only way that will know you ever worked at another Regional, or Jack in the Box is if you put the company in your application.

 

[PATSfan]

I concur with this too. The only way that will know you ever worked at another Regional, or Jack in the Box is if you put the company in your application.

I dont know about that. I had an interview with PSA and they said if any of you guys worked at another regional and it's not on your work history for any reason(washed out of training,etc.) we will know. He mentioned "if you received a paycheck from that employer" then we will find out.

 

[Flybet3]

I dont know about that. I had an interview with PSA and they said if any of you guys worked at another regional and it's not on your work history for any reason(washed out of training,etc.) we will know. He mentioned "if you received a paycheck from that employer" then we will find out.

That's news to me, but you might be right. I really dont know exactly how everything works.

 

[SOVT]

This happened at a major but I suppose is just as relevant to a regional as well. Had a classmate who was just a couple of days away from a 767/757 type rating, finished indoc, ground school and most of the sim sessions. She wasn't the sharpest stick in town but was scraping thru. Her background check came back with an employer that she hadn't told the company about. It turns out that she had been dismissed from that company for failure to complete training. The termination followed pretty quickly.

We all know someone who has lied in this industry and has gotten away with it. But all ethical arguments aside, are you willing to sink your career for good because of a lie. She certainly did.