Quick CFI finish up school

[tathepilot]

Tug driver I too went to Airman and there is more than taco cabana and other holes in norman and a trip to brick town is always great!
Bud ricker and Benny Blalock ae to very decent DPE's and are fair..they do fail those not prepared!
Give Brenda a call and tell her about your experienceit might get you a break on the price!
Airman alumni 2002

Since Airman does their training part 141 there is no break in the price since you have to do the whole course.
I think I might just suck it up and take the ride here..-

 

[T/SF34/A]

Isnt there an American Flyers in ISP? I believe they can finish you up. Not sure if they use the same DE's that you spoke of earlier though.

 

[tathepilot]

Yes AF does work out of ISP. I'll have to check up on them.

 

[PC12Cowboy]

HMMM

Airman is both part 61 and part 141 so they CAN adjust the price its just the intial ride is not in house! And the cheif pilot can always give credit for previous training!
PC12Cowboy

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

www.allatps.com
They have a nice priced CFI program. I almost went there & know many guys who did it at the Vegas location.

 

[avbug]

Get with a decent instructor who has some real-world experience, and get prepared that way. It's not the big deal that some make it out to be. Airman will be fine if you like cigarette smoke a lot, Sheble's is fine if you don't mind paying out the nose for a certificate-mill experience.

But if I understand you correctly, this is nothing more than an initial instructor practical test. It's a glorified commercial checkride with the emphasis on teaching, and not flying. Visit with those who have recently finished their practical test with the FSDO, get their input. Then get with an instructor and prepare, and go take the practical test.

What's the worst that can happen?

 

[tathepilot]

I've been getting a lot of good input from various people, on this msg board and in the real world. What it comes down to is my confidence. My instructor is great. He goes above and beyond what is required from an instructor. He used to work for Mountain air so he has a good amount of real world experience. I did speak to one individual who has taken the check ride with the 'de' that I'm going to use. (he busted) Not his fault, the instructor that he was training with didn't teach him how to do a steep spiral and a 180 power off accuracy landing. Also he couldn't describe the airspace that lies 10 ne of (21n) on the ny sectional 'class g'.
So I will suck it up and go with this examiner on the 30th of this month.

 

[bobbysamd]

CFI practical

Good luck with it.

I disagree somewhat with Avbug about the practical. There is the emphasis on teaching,yes, but there are examiners who hammer applicants unreasonably. E.g., the gal in Scottsdale who gives eight hour orals. It isn't that she's hard, she just covers everything. Theoretically, all examiners give the same exam, but in the "real world" that is not true at all. It should not take eight hours for an examiner to determine if a CFI applicant exhibits instructional knowledge.

Keep us updated.

 

[tathepilot]

Re: CFI practical

Good luck with it.

I disagree somewhat with Avbug about the practical. There is the emphasis on teaching,yes, but there are examiners who hammer applicants unreasonably. E.g., the gal in Scottsdale who gives eight hour orals. It isn't that she's hard, she just covers everything. Theoretically, all examiners give the same exam, but in the "real world" that is not true at all. It should not take eight hours for an examiner to determine if a CFI applicant exhibits instructional knowledge.

Keep us updated.

the gal that gives eight hours of oral: do you have her number?
jokes, jokes.

I will keep you posted..

 

[jayme]

I had my 8 hour oral with the Fed in Farmingdale on Long Island, NY. The examiner opend the PTS and hit EVERY task. The next day we did an hour pre-flight briefing (I had to present a preflight brief on DME arcs), then flew 2.3. Can't remember the fed's name - he was a short guy, mid 40s, who had previously flown 727s for some small airline. Fair, but like somebody just said - it doesn't take 8 hours to tell if an applicant deserves to pass. That was in '97. I trained through American Flyers. Rich Hames was my instructor, and he did an excellent job. I managed to pass the check ride first try.

Good luck!

 

[dasmith]

Sheble is latin for crappy instruction, crappy equipment, unprofessional attitudes, and high cost. Avoid latin, avoid this place. And no, its not a guaranteed pass... they have to kill a few CFIs now and then to make sure their stats are right.

 

[Tug Driver]

looking back...

I wish that i would of just done one on one with an instructor. I have learned a ton since i became a cfi. However, the more I learn, the more I second guess what I already know.

Has anybody else ever felt this way???

but the good thing is that we are becoming a cessna pilot center, so i get to watch the interactive king/ darva congers millionaire ex husband dvds, and brush up on my rusty areas.

 

[tathepilot]

Re: CFI practical

Good luck with it.

I disagree somewhat with Avbug about the practical. There is the emphasis on teaching,yes, but there are examiners who hammer applicants unreasonably. E.g., the gal in Scottsdale who gives eight hour orals. It isn't that she's hard, she just covers everything. Theoretically, all examiners give the same exam, but in the "real world" that is not true at all. It should not take eight hours for an examiner to determine if a CFI applicant exhibits instructional knowledge.

Keep us updated.

I did it!!!! I got my cfi today!!!!!
woooooooo!!!!

 

[bobbysamd]

Congratulations!!!

I did it!!!! I got my cfi today!!!!!
woooooooo!!!!

. . . But, how did it go? Where did you go? How long? What was covered, etc.

Once more, congratulations. One more unemployed flight instructor to add to the ranks.

 

[tathepilot]

Re: Congratulations!!!

. . . But, how did it go? Where did you go? How long? What was covered, etc.

Once more, congratulations. One more unemployed flight instructor to add to the ranks.

It went better than I expected. The local fsdo was booked up so I went with the one dpe that our fsdo uses'.
The oral lasted about three hours with two breaks. The dpe didn't drill me, he wanted for me to show my 'instructional knowledge' The questions that he asked me were reasonable. The first question kind of took me by surprise, 'probably the most difficult'
I thought to myself "if the whole check ride is going to be like this than it is over" The examiner asked me "a friend told me that if I load my cg to the rear, my airplane will fly faster. Is this true? please explain yourself"

FOI questions were thrown in here and there, maybe a total of ten.

This was the wind for the flight 29019G31KT
The flight lasted for about 1.0 it consisted of a normal t/o, chandelle, p/o stall, steep spirals, and 8's on pylons, which I didn't do perfect. After that he took the a/c and showed me how I should teach 8's. He than showed me how I should teach turns around a point. After that he said let's go back to the airport and show me how to land. I landed and than taxied back. He said "let me take off, teach me how" I taught him, he landed and that's it.

Definetely the happiest day of my life 'so far'