Quick CFI finish up school

[PC12Cowboy]

So Tug Driver what your saying is you;ll never eat at the golden corral again?? lmao

 

[Tug Driver]

do you have any idea what its like to be a vegetarian surrounded by BBQ???????

 

[mizzouguy]

Tug driver there are several dpes in tulsa but the okc fsdo must approve it It is the same with the kansas city fsdo. I have sent applicants to the kc fsdo and had great results. They are very fair but very thorough. You better know your stuff know matter where you go.

 

[dtoften]

Sheble is the place to go?

Could someone tell me more about Sheble Aviation? Is it a 141 school? Does the FSDO do the checkride for CFI or the two inhouse DE's? Reading some past topics on Sheble, it sounds like all checkrides are inhouse and quite informal. Going to get my CFI/II/MEI beginning next year after I saved up some more money $$$ this fall/winter. Just looking for a painless school that is reasonable cost. Not looking forward to FAA check. Sounds like Sheble students almost always pass, right? Looking for other schools if someone has any experiences with other schools. Thanks.

 

[bobbysamd]

Sheble v. FSI

Could someone tell me more about Sheble Aviation? Is it a 141 school?

Most definitely not. I went to Sheble's for my ATP. Sheble is absolutely not your father's flight school. For me, after my only full-time aviation employment being ERAU, Sheble was major culture shock. It was beyond informal. I still recall the cats living in the hangar.

Does the FSDO do the checkride for CFI or the two inhouse DE's?

See above. More than likely, not. You spend a couple of weeks there and take your practical.

Just looking for a painless school that is reasonable cost.

The place is not all that painless because you need to arrive prepared. You probably won't get much actual flight training - although by the time you are going for your CFI you shouldn't need much. You probably won't get much training in how to instruct students. But you will get your ticket.

Reasonable? Compared to places such as FlightSafety, etc., yes.

Not looking forward to FAA check.

Now, a place such as FlightSafety is indeed your father's flight school. I know; I instructed there for a little more than a year and trained three students for their CFIs. You will receive real training. You will, indeed, pay for it. You will be prepared to pass your practical with FSDO or whoever. I don't know if street CFI students receive the same consideration for post-graduate employment as students who go through the entire program.

I do not know at all if a place like Comair accepts street students for its CFI program. Most major flight schools will try to work with you on a Part 61 basis for nearly any certificate or rating.

Pick your poison. Good luck with whatever direction you choose.

 

[tathepilot]

Tug driver I too went to Airman and there is more than taco cabana and other holes in norman and a trip to brick town is always great!
Bud ricker and Benny Blalock ae to very decent DPE's and are fair..they do fail those not prepared!
Give Brenda a call and tell her about your experienceit might get you a break on the price!
Airman alumni 2002

Since Airman does their training part 141 there is no break in the price since you have to do the whole course.
I think I might just suck it up and take the ride here..-

 

[T/SF34/A]

Isnt there an American Flyers in ISP? I believe they can finish you up. Not sure if they use the same DE's that you spoke of earlier though.

 

[tathepilot]

Yes AF does work out of ISP. I'll have to check up on them.

 

[PC12Cowboy]

HMMM

Airman is both part 61 and part 141 so they CAN adjust the price its just the intial ride is not in house! And the cheif pilot can always give credit for previous training!
PC12Cowboy

 

[TEXAN AVIATOR]

www.allatps.com
They have a nice priced CFI program. I almost went there & know many guys who did it at the Vegas location.

 

[avbug]

Get with a decent instructor who has some real-world experience, and get prepared that way. It's not the big deal that some make it out to be. Airman will be fine if you like cigarette smoke a lot, Sheble's is fine if you don't mind paying out the nose for a certificate-mill experience.

But if I understand you correctly, this is nothing more than an initial instructor practical test. It's a glorified commercial checkride with the emphasis on teaching, and not flying. Visit with those who have recently finished their practical test with the FSDO, get their input. Then get with an instructor and prepare, and go take the practical test.

What's the worst that can happen?

 

[tathepilot]

I've been getting a lot of good input from various people, on this msg board and in the real world. What it comes down to is my confidence. My instructor is great. He goes above and beyond what is required from an instructor. He used to work for Mountain air so he has a good amount of real world experience. I did speak to one individual who has taken the check ride with the 'de' that I'm going to use. (he busted) Not his fault, the instructor that he was training with didn't teach him how to do a steep spiral and a 180 power off accuracy landing. Also he couldn't describe the airspace that lies 10 ne of (21n) on the ny sectional 'class g'.
So I will suck it up and go with this examiner on the 30th of this month.

 

[bobbysamd]

CFI practical

Good luck with it.

I disagree somewhat with Avbug about the practical. There is the emphasis on teaching,yes, but there are examiners who hammer applicants unreasonably. E.g., the gal in Scottsdale who gives eight hour orals. It isn't that she's hard, she just covers everything. Theoretically, all examiners give the same exam, but in the "real world" that is not true at all. It should not take eight hours for an examiner to determine if a CFI applicant exhibits instructional knowledge.

Keep us updated.

 

[tathepilot]

Re: CFI practical

Good luck with it.

I disagree somewhat with Avbug about the practical. There is the emphasis on teaching,yes, but there are examiners who hammer applicants unreasonably. E.g., the gal in Scottsdale who gives eight hour orals. It isn't that she's hard, she just covers everything. Theoretically, all examiners give the same exam, but in the "real world" that is not true at all. It should not take eight hours for an examiner to determine if a CFI applicant exhibits instructional knowledge.

Keep us updated.

the gal that gives eight hours of oral: do you have her number?
jokes, jokes.

I will keep you posted..

 

[jayme]

I had my 8 hour oral with the Fed in Farmingdale on Long Island, NY. The examiner opend the PTS and hit EVERY task. The next day we did an hour pre-flight briefing (I had to present a preflight brief on DME arcs), then flew 2.3. Can't remember the fed's name - he was a short guy, mid 40s, who had previously flown 727s for some small airline. Fair, but like somebody just said - it doesn't take 8 hours to tell if an applicant deserves to pass. That was in '97. I trained through American Flyers. Rich Hames was my instructor, and he did an excellent job. I managed to pass the check ride first try.

Good luck!