Pucker factor.....HIGH

[chperplt]

An ATA airplane arriving from Florida came to rest just before running out of room on a Midway Airport runway Monday afternoon, ending up just a few feet away from a pair of streets, ABC affiliate WLS reported.


No injuries were reported, a representative with the Indianapolis-based airline said.


The plane left Fort Lauderdale, Fla., early Monday afternoon and landed in Chicago around 2 p.m. The flight had 107 passengers and seven crew members, ATA said.


Information on why the plane nearly ran out of runway was not immediately available. ATA said a company official would travel from Indianapolis to Chicago to participate in an investigation.


The passengers left the plane and were transported by bus to a terminal

 

[CRJ Pilot]

Information on why the plane nearly ran out of runway was not immediately available.

I was gonna post a smart aleck reply about the plane's landing roll taking up the entire length of the runway but I can't do it. See what can happen when you don't log off at your overnight hotel?

Another board member

 

[bigD]

Wait a minute, did they run out of room or not? If not, why are there a pair of roads just feet away from the end of the runway - or are these roads just access roads for airport vehicles?

 

[bigD]

Thanks FlyChicaga for the link. It all makes sense now. So the statement about "ending up just a few feet away from a couple of streets" was kinda sensationalized by the media.

Typical.

 

[Q200_FO]

Makes me sick...

According to the Chicago CBS affiliate, the pilot should be drug off in chains without a trial. They practically blamed the guy for the whole ordeal. I quote their "informed" onsite reporter, "Like they always do, they will test the pilot for drugs and alcohol." Typical for the uninformed news media to make assumptions that the pilot is always at fault without all the facts.

 

[cvsfly]

Ever been to MDW? Just about every runway is right next to a street - approach and departure ends. Especially remember walking along S. Cicero towards the Greek Diner and feeling I needed to duck as the planes landed on 04R. Had to stay in the hotel off the approach end of 31C or 31R - the departures off of 13 had their lights shining through my window all night. Most runways have displaced thresholds making the longest available landing distance on 13C just over 6000'. If you had a maintenance shop that did nothing but brakes and tires there, you would make a mint.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

notice the tire marks? me thinks the they were pushing the pedals to the radome.

 

[cvsfly]

I'm the last one to stick up for the media, but I just saw the video. Sure they make stupid comments, misreport ("Runway 3"), and allude to things that have no basis in fact. The fact here is that they did go through the blast fence. I give my hat off to all who have to land large jets at MDW especially at night in bad weather. But it "appears" that the weather was good (daylight) and the available landing distance based on the displaced TH is about 5900'. Of course maintaining the GS will put you farther down and landing long and having a deferrred TR doesn't help either. Good job in the sence that they stopped when they did, but on this one I can't say good job overall. Sorry.

 

[freightdogfred]

Midway's a goat rope on a good day with everything working. Ya gotta put it on the end, not a place to go for the greaser landing. Can't say I'd like to go with a reverser on the DMI. Looks like everybody learned something......

1) The PIC, whose seat cushion had to be changed....

2) The dispatcher who signed the release, and now wishes he had'nt.

3) The maintenance controller, who might get a little questioning from his boss.

4) Me and you, reading this thread, who for **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** sure aiint taking a big flying machine into Midway with an inop reverser.

 

[cvsfly]

Pictures don't often lie. The plane went through the balst fence. That all the fact that I needed for this. Another thought the TR were not used or working. All I said is that it wouldn't help if they were. So the captain of a B767 bravely accepts the landing with 4900' of available runway with a tailwind. I'm not accusing him of anything until all the facts are out. Yes the media botches it most of the time and appears to have the pilots convicted immediately. I really didn't see anything out of line on the CBS report. It could have been worse. Could have been a big story. We all make mistakes, but if my family was aboard I would hope the crew takes a long hard look at their landing performance figures and if he botches the approach - take it around. So lighten up!

 

[cvsfly]

That was in responce to UM#1 post which disappeared?

 

[boeing luva]

Just so everyone knows, the T/R was not deferred on this aircraft. The last writeup about the T/R was back in march and it had no history since then. I do not know if the captain deployed the thrust reversers though. The pucker factor would have been very high though.

 

[Brother Francis]

"ATA XXX, speed and altitude permitting, turn left at the end, contact ground..."

Glad no one was hurt.

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

I think waiting until ALL the facts come out in this case would be a more professional way to approach things. JMHO

 

[Birdstrike]

The Media

Gotta agree with CVSFly's take on the media report. It was no hatchet job and could have been much, much, worse. The reporterette didn't accuse anyone of anything and stated that a mechnical problem remained a ditinct possibility for investigators to look at. All in all, 'thought it was a reasonable report given what had just taken place and what little was known at the time.

 

[labbats]

It was Midway. The captain probably got his attention diverted by random gunfire and car chases.