PSA to furlough 49 more FOs / downgrade 33

[Flyer1015]

It's been proven, time and again, that not picking up open time does NOT bring furloughees back. Don't let the soapbox sentiments of a few loudmouths prohibit the rest of the pilots from feeding their families. Open time is fair game, and unions are NOT allowed to prohibit pilots from making as much money as they can.

LOL! RHOID is back!

 

[WSurf]

Sure you would, Ginger.

Ginger? I don't get it. Don't make me come to your job and kick dicks out of your month now.

 

[LowlyPropCapt]

Ginger? I don't get it. Don't make me come to your job and kick dicks out of your month now.

...And one point is awarded to Surf!
:beer:

 

[Tweaker]

So let me get this straight, you want your old job back at Piedmont? And if you do how does it benefit anyone that is at Piedmont now?

Really, whats in it for us? Remember this is the airline industry and its all about ME.

This is how Tiffany really feels about union bruthahood when it affects him directly.

15 pilots try to get our corporation to honor an existing and signed by all parties contract that specifically requires them to offer return rights at their most recent seniority level (6-22 years of service), and this mouth-breather is itching to throw them a cinder block rather than a life vest.

Morals and character are that which is demonstrated by what you say and do when no one is looking, and when it is your turn to grab the shettae end of the stick, mate!

In your case, the former is situational and conditional, and the latter is simply absent.

I believe that you are inebriated, based on your sloppy spelling in your last two posts. Perhaps you should distract yourself with other pursuits. PWI - Posting While Intoxicated is usually not fruitful.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Whats in it for you surf?
It sets the stage for showing movement in both directions? Don't you f*(ing get it?
Please stop being such an ass.....
And no, I personally don't have a hard on to come back and work @PDT either. But it would be nice if presidencies were set for those of my friends that wanted to move on at a latter date w/o out taking so much risk!

 

[Captzaahlie]

It's been proven, time and again, that not picking up open time does NOT bring furloughees back. Don't let the soapbox sentiments of a few loudmouths prohibit the rest of the pilots from feeding their families. Open time is fair game, and unions are NOT allowed to prohibit pilots from making as much money as they can.

I got a couple mcnuggets you can suck on while you pick up open time........:smash:

 

[McNugget]

I got a couple mcnuggets you can suck on while you pick up open time........:smash:

You must be kin to Ty Webb!

(Yawn). Really, is that the best you can come up with?

 

[WSurf]

Tweaker and Captzaahlie,

What does PSA's situation have to with you guys that left Piedmont? You are really reaching.

PSA is gonna furlough, and picking up extra time while people are furloughed is way different from what you two did.

Lets see, you applied, interviewed and was then hired at US Airways. Plus during the interview they made it clear you weren't being hired because of a flowthur. Now that you might get furloughed you want your old job at Piedmont back. And I totally understand for those that want their old jobs back.

I don't see how they are the same? Anyway, call me an a$$ if it makes you feel better. I have never not wanted you guys back, but instead wanted the bi-directional flushthru completed before you came back.

We all knew the risk of going to US Airways without it being completed didn't we not?

And Tweaker, please! You talk about your 22 years of service at Piedmont. Hell, what did mainline give you for those 22 years????? First year pay and a seniority lower then the Mesa Guys hired off the street. Please don't preach about loyality and union brotherhood to me sir!

 

[WSurf]

Whats in it for you surf?
It sets the stage for showing movement in both directions? Don't you f*(ing get it?
Please stop being such an ass.....
And no, I personally don't have a hard on to come back and work @PDT either. But it would be nice if presidencies were set for those of my friends that wanted to move on at a latter date w/o out taking so much risk!

Well get your union and ours to sign it with managements agreement and then a big "Welcome Back" to those that wanna come back.

And no I personally don't have a hard on to go to US Airways, But it would be nice if the presidencies were set for those of my friends that wanted to move on at a latter date w/o taking so much risk! And yes enter sarcism there.

 

[BrownStreak]

For you guys that went to mainline and are getting furloughed....that's the risk you took. There is no reason why anyone at your old job should suffer by way of losing seniority because you swung for the fence and missed. Nobody would be able to get a job and move up if that was how it was, and you know it. Try reversing the roles, I promise you wouldn't want somone who moved on to come back down and jump right back in their place in line, either. Get over yourselves.
PS Why did you really think it was a good idea to go to mainline? Not flaming, just curious what would motivate someone to give up good seniority to go to a company that's in that kind of shape.

 

[buxflyr]

Not flaming, just curious what would motivate someone to give up good seniority to go to a company that's in that kind of shape.

The same reason people went to United, NWA, Eos, etc, the last 6-12 months. The grass is always greener on the other side...

 

[Tweaker]

I can tell you why I went.

To stay at my previous job does nothing to further my career. Many who have stayed have stayed far too long by their own admission. "If I had only left for UPS/FDX/SWA." I feel bad for them.

I rolled the dice. To advance and get a fresh start was a good move for me. I got a 737 type and time in the A/C, as well as glowing recommendations from my instructors. To stay would for me personally have been like settling for a fat/ugly chick at the bar, rather than "swing for the fence" like someone else said, and risk getting shot down by someone more desireable.

I also went to US Airways BECAUSE of the contractual provision that requires the company to let me flow down to MY old job at my old seniority. If I went anywhere else, I would be on my own. I knew that furloughs were very likely. I told everyone it was a 75% likelyhood. I still don't regret it. I am treated very well by EVERYONE I meet here. It is a tremendous change for the better.

WScum, you are feeling like a femine hygene bag and I know it, but you are too small to show contrition. You try tell us not to post on this thread because we have nothing to do with PSA furloughs. An attempt to redirect, nothing more.

Again, you try to tell us you want us back, you just want a bi-directional flow to make it OK with you. Asked and answered counsellor. I have stated time and again that we agree on this. You try to say it to justify your self-centered bleatings.

Give it a rest, and stop showing your arse! NO ONE WILL FLOW DOWN WITHOUT SUCH AN AGREEMENT. If it never happens, we never come back to "steal":laugh: our previous positions within our current corporation. If it does, then you too will reap the benefits of the contract we work under, and go to mainline if that is best for you and your spawn.

As far as your request for me to not "preach to you about union bruthahood." REQUEST DENIED. You have a damn big mouth (perhaps one wang to many, one too many times?). You can't reasonably expect to earn anything less than replies in kind. I'm not argueing with you, I know you are not man enough to even meet someone halfway. You are a sad little manchild

 

[buxflyr]

Tweaker,

I cant blame you for going for a mainline job. Your rationale is well respected.

On the other side, was it worth the risk? First of all, are you getting furloughed?

There are plenty of guys who you say are "stuck" at the regionals. Many of them are 15+ yr guys and are making over 100k. They may be "stuck", but unless the company goes under, they 1. wont be furloughed. 2. maintain their good schedule. 3. Continue to make excellent money.

I would rather be flying across the country in a 737, but for the job I have now doing the North Carolina express... its all the same, and pays the bills.

The one thing everyone can do is to make that back up plan. To be on the bottom 35% of a seniority list right now is not a good thought to have..

 

[McNugget]

The one thing everyone can do is to make that back up plan. To be on the bottom 35% of a seniority list right now is not a good thought to have..

1. Sell your ipod on ebay and trade down to a smaller model.

2. Buy supermarket brand hair gel.

3. Color your own hair.

4. Shag your flight attendants in the woods, instead of paying for a motel room.

5. Wash RJs for extra money, on your days off.

 

[buxflyr]

1. Sell your ipod on ebay and trade down to a smaller model.

2. Buy supermarket brand hair gel.

3. Color your own hair.

4. Shag your flight attendants in the woods, instead of paying for a motel room.

5. Wash RJs for extra money, on your days off.

Or 5 backup plans. Look at the ingenuity!

 

[McNugget]

Ooh!

6. Pick up all the open-time you can, then sell the trips to other pilots at a profit.

 

[McNugget]

7. Become a pimp for flight attendants on layovers.

 

[NCFlyer]

I also went to US Airways BECAUSE of the contractual provision that requires the company to let me flow down to MY old job at my old seniority. If I went anywhere else, I would be on my own. I knew that furloughs were very likely. I told everyone it was a 75% likelihood. I still don't regret it. I am treated very well by EVERYONE I meet here. It is a tremendous change for the better.

Tweaker,

It is my understanding that the "Preferential Hiring" program that you and the others went to US Airways was totally unrelated to the "flow through" that is in our current CBA.

The "Preferential Hiring" is a totally different monster. The "Preferential Hiring" has no basis in our contract. It has no provision for flow-down. My own opinion is that it is/was a program put in place by US Airways management to head off a potential injunction to stop any/all hiring off the street until the current battle over "flow through" was settled.

As 1 who argued and fought (unsuccessfully) to get the ALG/PDT pilots who went to MDA the opportunity to return to PDT I don't know that I think the current pilots have any right to expect to return. Can something be worked out? I don't know, but I am willing to work towards a mutually acceptable solution. However it seems that any solution will hurt someone.

 

[ex j-41]

7. Become a pimp for flight attendants on layovers.

Dude noone is going to pay to shag our flight attendents.

 

[McNugget]

Dude noone is going to pay to shag our flight attendents.

Even in North Carolina? I find that difficult to believe, but it's your airline.