- Feb 28, 2002
- Total Time
MEC hotline says that PSA has reached a TA on J4J.
Unfortunately you are correct. The sad part is that you are helping them to slaughter you.Smoking Man said:
I feel like we are being rounded up for the slaughter.
Yes, I read it and I just read it again to be sure. I wasn't bashing you personally but I was bashing your group. PSA has been around for a long time. Yet, if I believe what you tell me and I do, you don't have pilot ratification.Smoking Man said:You don't want to bash me? Have you read what you posted?
I don't doubt what you say. I took you at your word before and I'm taking you at your word again. You were not informed and the MEC ratified. You had no chance to vote pro or con. I think it is wrong for your pilot group to be put in that position. I also think the pilots should have demanded pilot ratification before your negotiations even began. This was not your first contract.I certainly do not like your demeanor, The truth is hat the pilot group did not even know for a fact that we had a TA on the Pilot contract before the MEC had voted it in.
Actually yes, I did come up with it on my own. What I said and meant was that when a pilot group has been around as long as yours has and does not have the right to ratify a contract, that is because the pilot group has allowed that condition to exist, for whatever reason.Wow did you come up with that on your own?
Either I'm not understanding you or you're not understanding me. I think you are telling me that you object to what just happened. If that is right, then I am ON YOUR SIDE.You don't even know the half of it. First of all it is not your JOB or your Pilot group that the FEW (MEC) has gambled with your future and turned the PSA name to trash. Piedmont seems to be following us.
Again, even if it makes you angrey, I still think that is very wrong. In my opinion your MEC should not decide that by itself. The pilots should decide and the only way that can happen is if you get a chance to vote on it. If my MEC kept me from voting on something like that, I would do everything in my power to recall every member of the MEC that voted for it.The J4J thing was a done deal from the start, The MEC had the votes locked in from the start. Before we knew about it.
How could you say that? I couldn't care less what kind of airplane you fly. I respect you as an airline pilot just like myself. It would never occur to me to disrespect you because you fly a turboprop. I've flown lots of turboprops myself.I'll end this now because obviously what ever I say will not matter, you must be so much smarter that the rest of us dumb turbo prop drivers.
You're right! I don't know what's been going on. What I do know is what Smoking man told me and I believed him.328dude said:Surplus.
You don't know jack about what has been going on with this airline. Replace the MEC. Wow, you really are a genious......
Well thanks, but the truth is I don't care for Tacos or the sauce. I'll settle for a Whopper or a chicken sadwich please. BTW I do know enough about the rules to get my MEC to do what the majority of the pilots want. Now did your MEC do that or did it do smething else?You claim to know about ALPA and it's by-laws, well a free taco to you sir. I'll even throw in some of my own special sauce.
You are right I don't work there. I work at Comair and our MEC doesn't go off on its own and do things without the pilot's consent. We will not allow that to happen and they wouldn't try it to begin with.Don't sit there and preach to us about what has been going on is our fault. You obviously don't work here or you would have shut up weeks ago.